Just been in the shed on the lathe and cleaned my adjusters up, much prefer the clean look, never did like the look of them, just didn't seem to go with the gun's look.
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That looks really great !Just been in the shed on the lathe and cleaned my adjusters up, much prefer the clean look, never did like the look of them, just didn't seem to go with the gun's look.
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Did you make anothe LPR cover for your Epoch?Just been in the shed on the lathe and cleaned my adjusters up, much prefer the clean look, never did like the look of them, just didn't seem to go with the gun's look.
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No, but the UK LP adjuster is not functional and lacks the hex and the insert, so I made a delrin insert and drilled it for a pin wrench to adjust if I want to.
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Be great if the hp& LP regs had numbered/click adjustment, would make experimenting and returning to original settings a lot easier.
Plus smooth over cap so you feel that you haven't messed it when carrying or supporting gun in hand.
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Hi Timo,
You can get the Power boost kit which has the low profile caps.
When you are at a tune you like. Take a measurement when the caps are on the regulators from the top of the cap to the frame of the rife with a caliper. You can use this as a reference for your settings
Mike
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On mine, I just use a digital gauge to monitor adjustments of my HP reg, you can do the same with the LP reg.
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Well, everybody it’s time for a new post and update.
The small O-rings are used to fix the needle valve worked great and so far everything on that end has been working fantastic.
Now for the slightly not so fantastic. I have been still having issues with some point of impact shift and variation to my pellet velocity.
So I went hunting and found the leak at the rear of the gun where the plenum cap is located. I stuck this in in a clear container of water and then filmed it in slow motion and it’s actually leaking a substantial amount during each shot, causing my fluctuation in speed and probably pellet accuracy as well..
I find it strange they are not 2 spaced o-rings on this part instead of one.
The concerning part is that the O-ring I removed was in perfect shape with no nicks on it.
If any of you are getting a small puff of air by your face while shooting, this is probably where it’s leaking from.
The small O-rings are used to fix the needle valve worked great and so far everything on that end has been working fantastic.
Now for the slightly not so fantastic. I have been still having issues with some point of impact shift and variation to my pellet velocity.
So I went hunting and found the leak at the rear of the gun where the plenum cap is located. I stuck this in in a clear container of water and then filmed it in slow motion and it’s actually leaking a substantial amount during each shot, causing my fluctuation in speed and probably pellet accuracy as well..
I find it strange they are not 2 spaced o-rings on this part instead of one.
The concerning part is that the O-ring I removed was in perfect shape with no nicks on it.
If any of you are getting a small puff of air by your face while shooting, this is probably where it’s leaking from.
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What was the condition of the o-ring you removed? Was it obviously nicked or extruded or otherwise deformed?
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none at all . In fact, I retested it after replacing that o-ring and it seems like it held the first one or two shots and then it did it again.
I’m going to replace the two O-rings on the poppet seat next as well as the pellet probe which I have done once before and see what that does
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One thing I also just noticed is that the .177 pellet probe only uses one o-ring where all the other calibers use 2.
I wonder if the second ring on the pellet probe would be the ticket.
Adding a second one if you have a lathe that would actually be pretty simple and wouldn’t mess anything up
I wonder if the second ring on the pellet probe would be the ticket.
Adding a second one if you have a lathe that would actually be pretty simple and wouldn’t mess anything up
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Well, I heard back from Skout.
Originally, all of their pellet probes came with two O-rings, but they’ve since switched to using just one.
As for the small puff of air I noticed coming from the breech block during firing — turns out I was right. Skout confirmed that in some cases, a small amount of air does escape during a shot. Keith explained that if you look closely at the breech block, there’s a small hole located just below the valve seat (the part you swap out when changing calibers). Air can occasionally escape through that hole.
he said you’ll notice it through the seam in the valve block
Interestingly, they used to plug that hole, but decided to leave it open as a kind of built-in safety vent. The idea is that if the spool valve ever fails and allows air into the chamber unintentionally, this vent can help prevent a misfire.
While I understand their reasoning, I’m not completely sold on the idea. I may try plugging it myself just to see if it has any impact. Keith mentioned that the tiny bit of air loss shouldn’t affect pellet velocity — and maybe with larger calibers that’s true. But with something like a .177, even a slight shift could be enough to push a pellet off target by a couple millimeters. That may not sound like much, but in the type of precision shooting I do, it can be the difference between a hit and a miss.
Originally, all of their pellet probes came with two O-rings, but they’ve since switched to using just one.
As for the small puff of air I noticed coming from the breech block during firing — turns out I was right. Skout confirmed that in some cases, a small amount of air does escape during a shot. Keith explained that if you look closely at the breech block, there’s a small hole located just below the valve seat (the part you swap out when changing calibers). Air can occasionally escape through that hole.
he said you’ll notice it through the seam in the valve block
Interestingly, they used to plug that hole, but decided to leave it open as a kind of built-in safety vent. The idea is that if the spool valve ever fails and allows air into the chamber unintentionally, this vent can help prevent a misfire.
While I understand their reasoning, I’m not completely sold on the idea. I may try plugging it myself just to see if it has any impact. Keith mentioned that the tiny bit of air loss shouldn’t affect pellet velocity — and maybe with larger calibers that’s true. But with something like a .177, even a slight shift could be enough to push a pellet off target by a couple millimeters. That may not sound like much, but in the type of precision shooting I do, it can be the difference between a hit and a miss.
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Although I thought I am not quite seeing it, after examining my pics it does seem entirely possible, and I am surprised that it's not more prevalent?
If you look at the first image, the small hole doesn't look that small to me! And if you consider the two O ring seals are placed either side of the aperture its quite easy to see that air can easily escape around the valve block/seal due to the restrictions imposed by the pellet and any further restrictions like I have with my TP filler, looks like I will have to now try firing a pellet with the valve immersed in water.
If you look at the first image, the small hole doesn't look that small to me! And if you consider the two O ring seals are placed either side of the aperture its quite easy to see that air can easily escape around the valve block/seal due to the restrictions imposed by the pellet and any further restrictions like I have with my TP filler, looks like I will have to now try firing a pellet with the valve immersed in water.
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So in your first picture I can see the hole that I was talking about in the valve block. Yeah … not so small of a hole.Although I thought I am not quite seeing it, after examining my pics it does seem entirely possible, and I am surprised that it's not more prevalent?
If you look at the first image, the small hole doesn't look that small to me! And if you consider the two O ring seals are placed either side of the aperture its quite easy to see that air can easily escape around the valve block/seal due to the restrictions imposed by the pellet and any further restrictions like I have with my TP filler, looks like I will have to now try firing a pellet with the valve immersed in water.
I think I’m going to plug mine and see what I get.
shouldn’t be to difficult.
im thinking rough up the interior surface and clean it well and then fill it with JB weld.
if i dont like the results i could easily drill it Back out.
on another note, since I enlarged the transfer port seat out on my .177 that part works very well and I’m able to have much more adjustment with heavy pellets than I did before.
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Sounds like a plan! Let us know how you get on, if it cures the inconsistency you're seeing, great. 
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