I agree, the gun mostly deserves the credit. However, in posting groups, that's exactly what I'm trying to relay to the public. I'm really just trying to demonstrate what the gun can do. I'm not really looking for credit for being a great shooter. A few years ago, when I was starting in this hobby and made the decision to buy my first high end PCP, I asked on the forums, what is the most accurate, off the shelf gun? In doing research, the only real life data I have to base my choice on is the results I see people getting from their guns online."zebra"
Other than testing that my gun is working properly, a group can be good for checking I have a consistent hold but unlike a lot of other people here, I can't seem to feel any sense of personal accomplishment when the group is tight. I feel like the gun deserves the credit.
Really? The thread was completely non-partisan and impersonal .. Then you get your panties in a bunch because someone called you out on a group (which I will happily assume you shot) but you can't offer the same courtesy to some other fellow... Accuracy tendered."Sam63"I have seen Tony at Talon Tunes post BS photos of groups and distances to sell a gun. In the thread below he states he shot dime groups at 55 yards in swirling winds with a 177 shooting 18 fpe. Posted photos. http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=35390
I have owned 2 extremely accurate 177 crickets. They both took hundreds of shots before capable of groups like Anthony posted. In swirling winds there is no way anyone is shooting 2 sub dime groups so I called BS on TAG. My posts were deleted and I was asked to stop. A couple of old timers posted I should stop being disrespectful.. After all Tony owns the forum where BS is called out. My guess is Anthony gets a pass and can post BS pics of groups because its business.
oldspook at the very least you could have read the thread before commenting on my"courtesy". Two posts up on the very top of the page the buyer of that gun posted there was no way it was capable of dime groups at 55 yards."oldspook"
Really? The thread was completely non-partisan and impersonal .. Then you get your panties in a bunch because someone called you out on a group (which I will happily assume you shot) but you can't offer the same courtesy to some other fellow... Accuracy tendered."Sam63"I have seen Tony at Talon Tunes post BS photos of groups and distances to sell a gun. In the thread below he states he shot dime groups at 55 yards in swirling winds with a 177 shooting 18 fpe. Posted photos. http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=35390
I have owned 2 extremely accurate 177 crickets. They both took hundreds of shots before capable of groups like Anthony posted. In swirling winds there is no way anyone is shooting 2 sub dime groups so I called BS on TAG. My posts were deleted and I was asked to stop. A couple of old timers posted I should stop being disrespectful.. After all Tony owns the forum where BS is called out. My guess is Anthony gets a pass and can post BS pics of groups because its business.
I've moved to 20 shot groups, as my bench rest matches are 75 shots, and field target matches 50-60."Percula"I think a good way to get an idea if a specific poster here is pulling a fast one or not is look at all of the groups/targets they post. If the only thing they post if sub MOA groups and 250 cards then they are likely at the very least not giving us the whole picture. No one shots a 25m 250 every single time they shot just as no one shots a sub MOA 100m group every time they shot. So if they post their 3" 100m groups right along with their 1/2" 100M groups and their 234 cards along with their 250 cards, they are likely telling the truth.
"Courtesy" is exactly the reason given for my being banned at one "other" AG forum. I trust you simply used the plural because you are ill informed... unless I have been banned on a second forum somewhere that I am not aware of... feel free to document that here. The moderators there demanded respect which I was not willing to give them. I didn't give them what they demanded and they banned me. That's just the way it goes. I'll live with that and not use it as a reason to rationalize my anger. The truth is I just don't like the clowns who run the place, but I don't call them liars, I just don't like them."Sam63"
oldspook at the very least you could have read the thread before commenting on my"courtesy". Two posts up on the very top of the page the buyer of that gun posted there was no way it was capable of dime groups at 55 yards."oldspook"
Really? The thread was completely non-partisan and impersonal .. Then you get your panties in a bunch because someone called you out on a group (which I will happily assume you shot) but you can't offer the same courtesy to some other fellow... Accuracy tendered."Sam63"I have seen Tony at Talon Tunes post BS photos of groups and distances to sell a gun. In the thread below he states he shot dime groups at 55 yards in swirling winds with a 177 shooting 18 fpe. Posted photos. http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=35390
I have owned 2 extremely accurate 177 crickets. They both took hundreds of shots before capable of groups like Anthony posted. In swirling winds there is no way anyone is shooting 2 sub dime groups so I called BS on TAG. My posts were deleted and I was asked to stop. A couple of old timers posted I should stop being disrespectful.. After all Tony owns the forum where BS is called out. My guess is Anthony gets a pass and can post BS pics of groups because its business.
How happy would you be if you were ripped off for $1500? Tony posted false photos of dime size groups at 55 yards so the guy would buy the gun. Tony lied. By the way $1500 is more than most of the people in his country make in a month. Accuracy tendered. "Courtesy" might be the reason you have been banned from other airgun forums.