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Element Optics just released Theos

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Looks like element Theo's, specs look awesome but looks pricey! Another entry into the top mid-tier scopes, pretty compelling features. Not looking for another scope but based on my experience with other Element scopes this one could be a winner. Street price supposed to be 2800 dollars which is a bit hard to justify.
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Element Optics designs and manufactures premium quality riflescopes and optics, backed by a team of professional shooters and hunters - Visit Us!
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EDIT: even DLO has a video of it! He just reviewed razor Gen3 and have good thing to say about the theos.
 
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Peashooter said:
Yeah.
And look nice i have to say.
BUT ! i have no doubt it have a price i could never justify / cover.

Bus as a zoom whore all i can say is gimme.
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Element scopes don't seem to go on sale at all, if the 2800 dollar price tag is true then it is way out of my price range! As much as I love the element scopes and I have 3 Helix, at 2800 dollars I'll be looking at March. Granted for the "tactical" shooting use cases I could not justify spending more than 800 dollars on a Titan. Obviously a few will have the fortune to be able to afford it and I wish Element success with this scope.
 
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I dont mind admitting that i am "hating" on element,,,,,, NOT ! CUZ i had any bad experience or even ever tried one of their scopes.
Just the strange me that never really liked playing the exact same game everyone else play, and everyone just seem to be Element this - Element that.
So cheating myself out of something good or not, i look elsewhere i have to admit.

Still keeping a open mind of course,,,, maybe too open some times, and for sure you did not have to ask me twice to try one of these suckers, BUT 2800 USD that are way out of my league, and i think even if i was working and making better money it would still be out of my comfort zone.

I would like to graduate to a 34 mm tube scope next time, but to go there i would first need to buy a new gun first CUZ the scopes i have already work fine on those 2 rifles.
My old Cyclone do not have a scope, CUZ thats the Hawke one that are now on my Vulcan 3, but i am willing to swap here as i do not shoot the Cyclone much these days.

Sort of always been like that. In the early 00s ( 2006 ) i got a quad bike, no one i knew had one, hell never even seen a Dane ride one.
So i droppes a substantial wad of money on a brand new modified Yamaha raptor and took to the track, only to realize that i was the only one there with a quad and also already back then my health was in no way ready for driving on track.
So i instead took to stunting it, also something i never seen a Dane do on 1 or 2 rear wheels, so again i was pretty alone in what i did.

I do miss the boosts of adrenaline and endorphin riding it, but the thing had to go when i sold my house.
Give a a lotto win and i will get a motorcycle made for stunting , even if i am no longer 45 years old. CUZ a man gotta have some fun one way or another.
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I shoot far,,,, well at least for the .177 caliber i am locked to.
I can still see the hole one of my slugs make on a piece of cardboard at 100 M, but i dont think i can extend the range much more before seeing my holes with 24 / 25 X magnification become a issue.

I do also now use splatter targets in the 2 and 3" size, i turn them into Swiss Cheese with XX shots at each before i move on to the next one.
Generally i shoot 10 shots after the red dot, then after that i shoot XX shots after empty areas on the splatter target.

Shooting regular papers that far out i can not do, well at least not if i hit in the black area CUZ like with marker dots on the cardboard it get nearly impossible to see where i hit if its in the black area.

Mind you come summer i am still going to put up a few BR50 papers all the way out at 100 M, CUZ chance are very few of my shots will be in the black, TBH if i can keep then inside the little rectangular for each target i will be happy.
 
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qball said:
Looks like element Theo's, specs look awesome but looks pricey! Another entry into the top mid-tier scopes, pretty compelling features. Not looking for another scope but based on my experience with other Element scopes this one could be a winner. Street price supposed to be 2800 dollars which is a bit hard to justify.
element-optics.com

Element Optics - Premium Quality Riflescopes and Optics

Element Optics designs and manufactures premium quality riflescopes and optics, backed by a team of professional shooters and hunters - Visit Us!
element-optics.com element-optics.com


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Interesting. 6-36 has become popular recently with several manufacturers coming out with versions and a couple still to come. That is a high price range for Element to jump into. I wish them the best. I’ll be curious to see what they sell for, because as you said, they usually don’t have discounts.
 
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Smok3y said:
Interesting. 6-36 has become popular recently with several manufacturers coming out with versions and a couple still to come. That is a high price range for Element to jump into. I wish them the best. I’ll be curious to see what they sell for, because as you said, they usually don’t have discounts.
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These new scope manufacturing companies (not just Element, but gun manufacturers also) are going to specialised top tier Japanese manufacturering facilities (I forget the name, but here's a similar factory http://www.light-op.co.jp/english/?page_id=22 ) and paying them to put together the scope they designed, around the current technologies in Japanese glass and magnifiction. This is why, in the past five to ten years, all of these new scope manufacturers like Element, Sig, etc, have similar glass and magnifiction characteristics but are simply housed with different and proprietary scope bodies, colors internals, knobs and reticles. I truly hope that Element makes it in this ever growing field of scope manufacturers, as they seem to be wanting to offer a quality shooting scope taking all the best "Element(s)" and putting them into one package, rather than just being a bunch of 'outdoor sports product' manufacturing investors looking to diversify and capitalise off of making generic scopes.

Edit to add: here's a blog on how this scope manufacturing trend works with Athon being named in the blog.

www.optics-trade.eu

Where are Athlon Riflescopes Made? - Optics Trade Blog

Athlon Optics is a US-based optics manufacturer who outsources its products from countries in the Asia Pacific, especially Japan and China.
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BlackICE said:
I find that interesting that their marketing department came up with the term aperture ring. That's a feature that allows you to get a clearer sight picture while reducing the effective objective size. So you're paying for a 56 mm objective but it doesn't perform Top notch unless it's a little smaller.
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This is not a faulty nor proprietary design from the folks at Element. This reducing ring is a long standing type of seeing and sighting "science" studied and used in the scope manufacturing industry as well as used in archery peep sights.
 
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Some March optics also include an "aperture" ring but they call it their MD Disk. My March-FX High Master 4.5-28×52 came with one but I never used it yet. Here's a little info on what it's for...

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I'm curious how the new Theos stacks up against the new Vortex Razor Gen3 6-36×56, Nightforce ATACR 7-35, March 5-40x56 Gen2, and ZCO 8-40x56. I'm interested in an unbiased review from someone like Ilya (Dark Lord of Optics) or someone else from the Snipershide forum.
 
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Smok3y said:
Interesting. 6-36 has become popular recently with several manufacturers coming out with versions and a couple still to come. That is a high price range for Element to jump into. I wish them the best. I’ll be curious to see what they sell for, because as you said, they usually don’t have discounts.
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People need to remember that Element isn't just an airgun optic company. These scopes are in the same tier as the Vortex Razor Gen 3, the glass is made in the same place, but the price is a few hundred under the price of the Vortex. This should be a good hit in the PRS scene, and help put Element in the minds of many of those guys.
 
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Peashooter said:
Waiting for someone to post about HYPR 7 scope

Which more look like it, though as far as i can see do not have IR / night mode, and any level of Optical zoom are not mentioned,,,,, and i absolutely do NOT count any level of digital zoom.
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Looks like the Imersive optics scope that showed up at shot show last year but haven't seen it since. Makes me wonder.
 
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