EDgun Leshiy2 - Tank Options

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Hello,

I am on the list to get this PCP Rifle and this is my first PCP rifle! Because of this I am not setup with everything needed. I was thinking about buying a $200 hand pump to start with, but have decided just to spend the money on a proper tank. The gun has 180CC twin tanks and would like to get 50 fills out of whatever tank I got. What size would I need to accomplish this? I have poked around a bit and tbh, just very confused by it all. My budget for a tank would be $400 to $500.

Thank you!
 
If you're getting a tank, just opt for the 74 cu FT - 100 cu FT tanks if you're not planning on taking it out to the field. You'll get the most fills this way, however, you sacrifice mobility because it'll be too large to mostly carry around. If you value mobility, you'll have to elect for a smaller size tank such as a 90 cu inches version. A very important aspect you have to keep in mind regarding the leshiy 2 is that it is 4350 (around that) fill pressure. That means if you buy a 4500 PSI tank, once you're tank pressure dips below 4300 PSI, you won't be able to completely fill up the leshiy 2 to the max (which is actually OK for most people since most don't like to fill it completely to the brim anyways), and once your tank hits 3000 PSI (which is still excellent to fill for alot of other guns), you'll probably only be able to fill the leshiy maybe half way. In my opinion, just get the larger tank. 
 
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If you're getting a tank, just opt for the 74 cu FT - 100 cu FT tanks if you're not planning on taking it out to the field. You'll get the most fills this way, however, you sacrifice mobility because it'll be too large to mostly carry around. If you value mobility, you'll have to elect for a smaller size tank such as a 90 cu inches version. A very important aspect you have to keep in mind regarding the leshiy 2 is that it is 4350 (around that) fill pressure. That means if you buy a 4500 PSI tank, once you're tank pressure dips below 4300 PSI, you won't be able to completely fill up the leshiy 2 to the max (which is actually OK for most people since most don't like to fill it completely to the brim anyways), and once your tank hits 3000 PSI (which is still excellent to fill for alot of other guns), you'll probably only be able to fill the leshiy maybe half way. In my opinion, just get the larger tank.
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Thank you for the reply. 

When it comes to brands and so forth do you have any suggestions? I actually did not know that about the gun, good to know. Going from 4500 PSI to 4350 PSI I assume only takes maybe a few fills? At 3000PSI (50% fill on gun) I wonder how many shots you could get off and how long it would take the gun to get there? Just talking out loud. I am a complete newb :)
 
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Yes sir, happy to help. As for brands, I think as long as you don't buy a cheap one, you should be OK. Look at websites like PyramidAir, AirgunsofArizona, UtahAirguns, etc for the brands they carry; the Edgun site also has a tank they sell too. These will usually be a good benchmark for what a good tank is. I myself have a Air Venturi 74 cu ft tank. 

If you're not concerned about mobility at all, you could probably get a decent air compressor too if that's an option for you, although they do require a bit more maintenance. But this way, the Leshiy 2 will always be topped off. 
 
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When I talked to Brian, he said the Leshiy 2 long was capable of around 24 - 32 shots, that is 3 - 4 magazines which is really effective in my opinion for the size of that gun. Being as no one really has had time to extensively test the gun, we don't really know for sure what exactly it'll be putting out specs-wise. We only have speculation from the factory tested results that Ed put up; but if I were a guessing man though, I'd guess at 3000 PSI, it could deliver around 2 magazines, or about 13 - 16 shots, but that'll probably be the limit for what I'll attempt to do with the gun at that point. 
 
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Hey All,

Thank you for the replies! 



So in a wayyyy with the Leishy 2 at 3000 psi (the fill tank) will be two to three mags....Hmmmm....again I am new, so bare with me...I assumed I would have the tank able to fill the gun pretty much down to a 0% charge and be able to get the gun to at least 80%. This is not the case at all.



Any guess on how many charges would get the tank to 3000psi from 4500? It sound like at 2500 PSI the tank might as well be at 0% based on actual use at that point. 



This would bring up the idea of a compressor. Yes, I am open to one. But a small one, no more than maybe 20lbs. I would spend $700 to $800 on one. I am not discounting the tank at this point, but I am open to a compressor. Like the tank, I am clueless on these. So any help would be appreciated!



Thank you for all the help!
 
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Well I was looking at the Air Venturi Nomad II - It is small, fairly light and will direct fill the gun. It comes in around $700 - that is fine. Or am I missing something with regards to it and the Leishy 2? I figure to get setup to run the gun will be about $250 (hand pump) to $800+ depending on setup. Then there is pellets, scope and so forth. I am prepared to spend it. I am very familiar with top tier center fire rifles such as fire AR15's and AR10's. As many of you are aware buying (high end - think KAC) and fully equipping one of those can run north of $6k to $8k with a can. haha. Anyways, all this while isn't cheap is more palatable than getting well into AR's. I digress.....

Thank you for the link, however I am a bit confused on how to use it. According to Ed Gun West the L2 has twic 180CC tanks - so 360CC. The scuba tanks have a max capacity of 4500 psi from what it looks like. Should the boxes read as follows?

-Tank Cap: leave at 75 cu ft

-Tank Pressure: 4500 PSI

-Fill gun to this pressure: 4500 psi as the L2 can fill to this amount

-Refill airgun to this pressure: a bit confused on this. Wouldn't this be 4500 again?

-Airgun cycliner has this volume: 360CC

When I input this it spits out NaN. 



Thank you!
 
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It's always good to start out with a hand pump. It's something you can always fall back on as a backup. There's pros and cons for each. My suggestion is; after you've purchased your hand pump, start working on getting the biggest CF tank you can afford. Just get the 75 cu.ft. or what some companies refer to as a 100 cu.ft. tank. Later on, you can pick up a smaller tank for portability. 

I don't recall your post mention where you will be getting the tank filled up at. That's a whole different story. Next thing to do is to start saving up for a good compressor. The only thing is to make sure you have a good moisture filtration set up for it and you must know how to and do the maintenance required to keep it running.

In regards to that Airguns of Arizona tank fill calculator link, on the "Refill Airgun At This Pressure", you have to enter the PSI/BAR of what your airgun's regulator is set at. For example, if the Leshiy 2's regulator set point is 150 BAR (2175.6 PSI), you enter it into that tab. So 2175.6 to 4500 PSI is where the gun's working range is at. Within that range, the shots will be close to each other in terms of feet per second (fps). 

If you shoot below the regulator's set point, then your fps will start decreasing. Also, I know the Leshiy can be filled up to 4500 psi but you don't have to. The construction of the air tube can handle the pressure but over time, the o-rings can't and you'll start to have leaks and you would need to change out the o-rings. I think filling it to 240 to 260 BAR would be fine. You'll get less shots but you won't have to do as much maintenance in the end.
 
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Ok interesting. I have watched several YouTubs vids on both. Reading the comments on both would lead one to believe your comment is true (not saying its false, but based on others im reading more or less the same thing - a couple commentators said they bought an Omega travel to replace their Ventrui II)



So with that said it looks like the $200 more for the Omega may be worth it. I also see they sell a $199.99 in-line water filter. Would that be wise to purchase as well? I was thinking it couldn't hurt. 

It also appears the Omega goes to 5000PSI is MUCH quieter and can, in a pinch, fill larger tanks as well. 



Of course, not being a subject matter expert AT ALL any and all input welcomed and would be appreciated.



Thank you!
 
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You are buying a very expensive and well built airgun. The best thing you can do is to provide it with the best air you can afford. Once you put a scope on that nice gun, you will probably be into for over $2500, and that's with no filling device. As much as I hate to say it, if I was investing this much into an airgun, I would either buy an Alkin, Daystate, or some other quality compressor with a filter system, or buy a big tank as others have suggested and find a place that will fill it above 4k. If you get any moisture in your airgun, that could be a costly repair. It won't show its ugly head for a while, but if it does, it may be bad. A lot of people, including myself, spend a lot on airguns and scopes and overlook the fact that the air supply is one of the most important pieces in this hobby. Too many dealers push the inexpensive compressors so that it appeals to the buyers, but in the long run I think that it does more harm than good. Good luck with whatever route you choose, but choose wisely and read and ask a lot of questions. It's a fun sport but it's not cheap.
 
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You are buying a very expensive and well built airgun. The best thing you can do is to provide it with the best air you can afford. Once you put a scope on that nice gun, you will probably be into for over $2500, and that's with no filling device. As much as I hate to say it, if I was investing this much into an airgun, I would either buy an Alkin, Daystate, or some other quality compressor with a filter system, or buy a big tank as others have suggested and find a place that will fill it above 4k. If you get any moisture in your airgun, that could be a costly repair. It won't show its ugly head for a while, but if it does, it may be bad. A lot of people, including myself, spend a lot on airguns and scopes and overlook the fact that the air supply is one of the most important pieces in this hobby. Too many dealers push the inexpensive compressors so that it appeals to the buyers, but in the long run I think that it does more harm than good. Good luck with whatever route you choose, but choose wisely and read and ask a lot of questions. It's a fun sport but it's not cheap.
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Thank you! Based on other replies I am steering away from from the Nomad ii, but still would consider the Omega Trail Charger. It's Chinese, but I think (?) the gentleman behind it is trying to put out a quality product(?) https://hardairmagazine.com/features/ham-meets-man-makes-omega-compressors/

The benefits there is the portability and how quiet it is. Not many complaints about this model, but not too many people running them? This model also accepts an inline moisture trap (an additional $200!) which I would buy negating the worry of moisture. 

I got a PM by Humdiner mentioning the New Hill EC-3000. That appears to be 100% in the UK and would be another option although much heavier. It looks like those had a recall several months back do to a loose bolt? I would assume any purchase from here on out would have the firmware updated and this problem resolved. With that being said, it does not appear to have moisture trap? Or am I missing something on it?
 
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I also pre ordered an Leishy 2 Long. Can't wait to get it to add to my many other PCP's

As for air tanks for sale. I would stay away. they are not what they use to be. Not much support and wants to get you off the phone as soon as possable. I was having trouble with my alpha filter and order a so called kit for it from him for $12 and he sends me one o ring. LOL. I have since out sourced a real complete kit for the PMV valve and I have also out sourced the refil filters for it at a third of the cost from him. BTW I got a complete rebuild kit for $19 and he charges 12 for one o ring. What a rip!!!
 
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