Daystate Easier to control rifles.

[Emu]

After shooting for many years Bull Pups, semi Bull Pups, recently the Panthera, Sidewinder, bla, bla, bla... The fact is that Wolverines and Red Wolf, for me, are much easier to control.

So no matter if all are equally accurate, my shooting is better with the Wolverines and Red Wolf because I am able to control them the better.

Today I went to my shooting club, with the Wolverine .30 Cal HP non HR, at the 200 mts (220 yards) range I was able to hit (not centered but touch it) a stone the size of a golf ball. That would be the 24th shot I made with that rifle .... So the rifle is a natural.

 

[Stubbers]

After shooting for many years Bull Pups, semi Bull Pups, recently the Panthera, Sidewinder, bla, bla, bla... The fact is that Wolverines and Red Wolf, for me, are much easier to control.

So no matter if all are equally accurate, my shooting is better with the Wolverines and Red Wolf because I am able to control them the better.

Today I went to my shooting club, with the Wolverines .30 Cal HP non HR, at the 200 mts (220 yards) range I was able to hit (not centered but touch it) a stone the size of a golf ball. That would be the 24th shot I made with that rifle .... So the rifle is a natural.

What is/are the contributing factor(s) that make the 2 Daystates more natural and controllable? Maybe manufacturers can take notes.

-Matt

 

[Emu]

What is/are the contributing factor(s) that make the 2 Daystates more natural and controllable? Maybe manufacturers can take notes.

-Matt

Maybe: shape, weight and length.

 

[MysticalDragon]

I would also say that center of gravity, aka weight distribution or balance plays a HUGE part in it too. You can have a lightweight rifle but if the COG is off it will feel heavy.

 

[bdzjlz]

I own a Red Wolf in .22, and Wolverines in .177, .22, and .25. They are among the most accurate, smooth, simple, and dependable rifles in my collection.

 

[Vana2]

I've always thought that the better the gun fits, the more consistent you will hold it and the better you will shoot with it.

There's a good reason that high-end target rifles and pistols can be adjusted every which way - it makes a huge difference to accuracy!

Being of average size, most guns fit me fairly well. That being said, I don't hesitate to modify (adjust, rasp or pad as required) any stock that doesn't.

Cheers!

 

[Stubbers]

 

[AlanMcD]

I think longer, conventional rifles are so much better in this regard for the simple reason that they have a higher "polar moment of inertia." This speaks to the amount of energy needed to change the radial position of something, as it is a measure of the inertia of the object around an axis, not just in a linear manner - which is the only way most people think of inertia.

Think of it this way - if you have a three foot long dowel rod and put two one-pound weights on it, but allow those weights to vary in location, you get very different results even if the system balances the same. Put the weights in the center six inches apart, and then compare that to having the two weights at the very ends of the rod thus far apart - both will have the same balance point, but the one with the weights in the center will be "twitchy" to keep pointed in a fixed direction compared to the other.

This is really just a deeper dive into MysticalDragon's point about weight distribution . . . .

I find my most stable, easiest to shoot offhand gun is my Daystate Air Ranger, followed by my Marauders. My Huben (which I love) and my Sidewinder (which I am warming up to) are much harder to shoot as well as I find them to be "twitchy" - they deflect off the aim point much faster and easier than the Air Ranger.