Dual Reg and Speed shooting

[harrymoreland]

Have FX ruled themselves out of speed shooting events with the introduction of the two regulator system to their flagship all conquering Impact.

Thoughts.

 

[nervoustrig]

The dual regulator arrangement has the potential to achieve quite the opposite. My thoughts on it from a previous topic:

Regarding the Maverick dual regulator concept, note input regulation and refresh rate are competing factors in a regulator design.

In other words, you can have it do a good job at holding a stable setpoint as the input pressure rises and falls if you don’t need it refresh quickly.

Or you can have it refresh quickly if you’re okay with the setpoint moving up and down a bit with the reservoir pressure.

I think that’s what FX was trying to achieve with 2 regulators--an arrangement that can do both.

Note dual regulators have been a thing in the paintball world for a long time. There, rapid fire rates and low setpoints (wide reservoir operating range) make it advantageous. For the Maverick, their press release says it’s designed with slug shooting in mind which means high energy -> high air consumption -> need fast refresh. Else follow up shots will be slow. That’s my interpretation from reading between the lines.

 

[bandg]

Seems possible. Probably depends just as much on the "speed" of the regulator(s) as much as the "speed" of the event. But I would think with two regulators in sequence that the "recovery time" might be longer. Or might not.

 

[Spray1Mark]

Speed shooting is way way more about technique and the layout of the gun and magazine than consistent velocity, otherwise Thomas Air would win it every year!

 

[bandg]

I don't shoot such events so I can't say with certainty that you are right or wrong. It will be interesting to hear opinions from others who do compete in such events.

 

[Centercut]

Best way to see is to shoot a magazine as fast as you can and see what happens to MV. If it stays within 15 FPS or so you’re Golden. Most of our speed events don’t go out much past 75 yards. If you look at guys that are REALLY fast like John Bagakis (Daystate Wolf Pack) he’s shooting almost as fast as he can cock and pull the trigger. I remember hearing that he was a bit too fast for the gen1 Red Wolf GCU but the gen2 was fast enough for him. 

 

[Kurt110]

I can vouch for the lightning fast refresh rate of the Huma regs in my two Impact MK2 PP in .22.

Did some speed shooting at a 50mm by 50mm steel plate two weekends ago in windless conditions, and didn’t miss once in 28shots, squeezing shots off as fast as I could cycle and squeeze. And the chrony reflected the consistency.