do match grade pellts really shot that better?

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I do not care which brand; it's a general question. The reason is that I can get tight groups with the right pellet once it is found. So, say my .22-PCP likes 18 .34 gr.;would a close to that weight target pellet actaully be better, I am looking for a consensus of thought on this subject. Iam trying to get hole in hole,my rifle is set up perfect as is.
 
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I do not care which brand; it's a general question. The reason is that I can get tight groups with the right pellet once it is found. So, say my .22-PCP likes 18 .34 gr.;would a close to that weight target pellet actaully be better, I am looking for a consensus of thought on this subject. Iam trying to get hole in hole,my rifle is set up perfect as is.
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I can only speak for the Benjamin Match single die. Yes this pellet is definitely more accurate over any other pellet we offer. It was designed to fly truer and have less BC over Crosman branded ones. A lot of time did go into bringing these to market.
I’ve even tested the .25 in a .257 Bulldog with good results. And the dog was pushing them at over 1200fps in a 1:14 barrel.
I know you don’t care about brands but IMO brands do matter. Some just do it for marketing is my point.
 
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I think all JSBs are considered match grade along with AEA and JTS!
I think the term match grade is more of a sales gimmick! Maybe sorted a little better or something along those lines but a barrel likes what a barrel likes.
And can say the same for the single die Benjamin domes as above. Several come close in my springers but they are tops in accuracy!
 
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There are no competition pellets (outside of the 10-meter Olympic range). It's a matter of finding different brands, different weights, different speeds, different batches, and doing a lot of testing and taking a lot of notes.
When you find a pellet that your barrel likes, try matching the velocity to that pellet, and if it really works well, write down the brand, write down the batch number, and buy as many pellets as you can from that brand and batch. There are no perfect pellets.
If you're looking for more precision, you'll need to wash them, lubricate them, sort them by weight, check for concentricity, and use a magic wand to make all the work you've done pay off. It's about scraping a little bit from all sides, perfecting your shooting technique, being consistent and repetitive.
 
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The single die go a long way to improving accuracy. Consistency in size and weight is key to accuracy. Crosman used to sell single die pellets in 1250 count brown boxes that were excellent. Of course they were discontinued a few years ago.

Pellet tins of regular unsize specific JSBs can come from different dies. JSB produces billions of pellets so they get mixed die lots in a single tin. When they make pellets for other companies like Air Arms and FX they produce them from a single JSB owned die. AA owning their own dies is marketing myth. What's not a myth is many people experience better accuracy with AA rebrands. That's because they are single die packaged and the tin is more consistent pellet to pellet.

The downside to single die pellets is if you get a tin your gun doesn't like. It doesn't like that whole tin or any others from the same lot. This is more likely with springers, that are typically more pellet fussy than other airguns. Luckily if you own several springers you can usually find one that will shoot those pellets.

There can be a big difference in Match marketed pellets but that can depend on how fussy the gun is. RWS Meisterkugln shoot pretty well in my springers. Now tins of RWS R10s, a match version of MKs shoot amazingly in the same guns. RWS also sells Match R10s in cards of 50 (or100?) individually set in a foam card for match shooters. I'm too cheap to buy those and only rarely pick up the tinned R10s but the improvement is there to be had if you want to pay for it. It's whether or not the improvement in your gun is worth it to you. Typically the only shooters buying these things are competitive shooters.

HTH
Ron
 
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boscoebrea said:
I do not care which brand; it's a general question. The reason is that I can get tight groups with the right pellet once it is found. So, say my .22-PCP likes 18 .34 gr.;would a close to that weight target pellet actaully be better, I am looking for a consensus of thought on this subject. Iam trying to get hole in hole,my rifle is set up perfect as is.
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So how big of a hole are we talking about? At what distance? Ten meter seems to be the standard. Those guys are serious business. At that level I am sure they are all shooting pellets that have been sorted and sorted and then sorted again.

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In my opinion checking pellets at 10 yards unless you only ever shoot 10 yards is waste of time. Pretty much most pellets wipe out a tiny dot at that distance every shot out of my 6 springers. Back it up to 20 meters or 25 yards, especially indoors, and now you see differences. JSB 8.44s in 4.52 is the best in all my guns. AA 8.4 or 10.3 run a close second in them. Other than that, not worth my time and effort. Yes I have tried the Benjamin single dies, better thst some others but not good.Outdoors at 50 yards the 10.3 AA are a close second with the two guns I shoot at 50 yards the most, TX200 and a LGU. Flags a must out doors and very close to 20 m or 25 yard indoor groups, surprising . But my D54 in .22 is tough outdoors, on a good day including 100 yds JSB 15.89s. Probably after the above but not real close would be dither H&N or JTS. in .177 and JTS a very close second in .22 My best effort at 100 yards was with the D54 and JTS 16.01s. Back to back 1.5 inch, 5 shot groups, 100 yards.
 
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boscoebrea said:
I do not care which brand; it's a general question. The reason is that I can get tight groups with the right pellet once it is found. So, say my .22-PCP likes 18 .34 gr.;would a close to that weight target pellet actaully be better, I am looking for a consensus of thought on this subject. Iam trying to get hole in hole,my rifle is set up perfect as is.
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AEA pellets are some of the nicest looking pellets available, very uniform, very few dings and dents. I have the fewest flyers, and the most consistency shooting groups with them
 
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