Discovery VT-3 vs Vector Veyron?

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I would agree with him but add one more thing the Veyron is not great in the FFP as the reticle is so fine that is not much good at less than eight power.
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I agree that at 3x the reticle is a guess at best but I basically leave it at 12x all the time. At 12x the reticle is perfect IMHO, very usable and thin enough to really see the pellet impact. I have a SFP version for hunting at closer range which works out really well also. Thinking about getting a discovery HD 3-12 FFP which has illuminated reticle and in theory should fix the thin reticle problem at lower power. 


 
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qball;

I use my Veyron on 12X most of the time also but originally bought it for close up use and 12X really cuts down on the field of view. So I put it on my Browning .22 rifle. The reason for the purchase of the Discovery SFP to put back on my PCP pistol. Got a good deal on a Veyron SFP been waiting for it to ship for two months now. Expect it should be coming soon. 

ClarkT;

I ended up with the Veyron first and then was wondering about the Discovery so I bought it also. Both decent compact scopes for the money and I am not unhappy with either purchase. Love the reticle on the Discovery also.
 
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You can put a handicap sharpie dot on see thru lens scope covers on the ocular side. Crank to 12x to coincide the sharpie or glitter dot with the center of the reticle for low magnification use if you don't want to put a sharpie or glitter dot the actual ocular lens. Consistant head placement is a must.

You can use Butler Creek see through flip ups if you choose. Other see through brands would do too. For FFP reticle that are hard to see at lowest magnification with no daytime visible illumination.
 
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I have the Vector Optics Veyron in 3x12 FFP and I agree with @biohazardman and @Odoyle that it is a fine recticle to see at low power. Maybe in this choice the second FP would have been better. However, for 200 euros I find it to be a very good scope and much better than my 269 euro FX 4.16 scope.

I was out yesterday VO on my Taipan and have no problem seeing the reticle at 6 power, which is what I use mostly anyways. In the future the Taipan though will get a different scope, but for a starter budget scope, I am happy with the Veyron.
 
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What others already mentioned — that an FFP reticle will be very fine and hard to see a lower magnifications. It has to be that way, because if all the reticle lines were very good visible at low magnification, then at high magnification they would be waaaay too thick, covering up your bulls' eye or your quarry's head.



🔶 However, there are a couple of work-arounds:

▪If you have illumination, turn it on (unfortunatley, neither the Discovery, nor the Vector, nor the US Optics have IR).



▪If the FFP reticle has thick outside posts, then these outside posts will start closing in a lower magnifications and will guide your eye to where the crosshairs meet.

I have the Discovery model, and this works very well with it. The US Optics also has thick outside posts. The Vector does not.



▪Of course, if you dial all your shots with the turrets, you don't need an FFP reticle, and are better served with an SFP. They are often a bit cheaper, too.



Matthias
 
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I looked at both. 

Wanted a SFP so the reticle visibility wouldn't be an issue at low power. VT-3 comes in SFP. Reticle stands out even at 3x.

The thing that clinched it for me was the VT-3 reticle. Clearly numbered Mil hash lines. 

The Veyron has a goofy reticle layout. Hash #5, #9 and #13 are wide. Not good is your other scopes have evenly spaced wide hash marks at #5 #10, etc. Really not good since they aren't numbered. If it's your only scope, you'd probably get used to it.
 
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What others already mentioned — that an FFP reticle will be very fine and hard to see a lower magnifications. It has to be that way, because if all the reticle lines were very good visible at low magnification, then at high magnification they would be waaaay too thick, covering up your bulls' eye or your quarry's head.



🔶 However, there are a couple of work-arounds:

▪If you have illumination, turn it on (unfortunatley, neither the Discovery, nor the Vector, nor the US Optics have IR).



▪If the FFP reticle has thick outside posts, then these outside posts will start closing in a lower magnifications and will guide your eye to where the crosshairs meet.

I have the Discovery model, and this works very well with it. The US Optics also has thick outside posts. The Vector does not.



▪Of course, if you dial all your shots with the turrets, you don't need an FFP reticle, and are better served with an SFP. They are often a bit cheaper, too.



Matthias
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These budget chinese scopes' turrets aren't very reliable/accurate at dialing so I'm using reticle only. When using SFP just use drop distance instead of Mil or MOA which helps you with switch in between, it took a little practice but it's not that hard once you get a hang of it if you know your target's size. With lower power of pellet guns I found my self using max magnification all the time because I want to see the whites of their eyes! LOL 



The cheapest scope that has spot on turrets for dialing that I found is the Element Helix, still need to test the made in japan barra on dialing. If the Barra H50 dials accurately and match strelok like the Element then that scope is the deal of the year if you caught the 250 dollar ebay deal. Tried to dial with different scopes and anything after 40 yards is off.....sometimes WAY off! With the Helix I would range, dial and hit.....it's that good!
 
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