Daystate Revere pellet tests

[rigbymauser]

GOt my new Revere in .177 here in august and I`ve had the liberty to do some testing. It became clear the diabolo type pellets looses spinddrift over longer ranges. At 40meters all pellets shoots well enough to be useful for plinking and smallgame hunting but at 70meters the heavy JSB 16,2grain Beast and the JSB Redesign 13,43grain starts spreading. The JSB 10,34grain keeps up well which the gun clearly shows preference for. At 70meters I experienced the redesign and the beast bounced of the ½ inch plywood where the 10,34grain dug deep into the plank(almost went through). Apparently speed with a lighter pellet does mean something for the abillity for penetration(atleast on plywood)



All pellets were taken straight from the tin. No sorting of any kind.

The scope is a Hawk 4-16x50 SF sidewinder.

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70 meters

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[Bobbybeef]

I have the revere regulated also the pellets that my gun shoot the best is Air Arms 10.3 it was better grouping than the JSB 10,3 it wasn't much better but it was noticeable i have shot other brands but the AA were always better

 

[AirShot]

What velocity is your pellet going? The reason I ask, is that my R1 springer in .22 cal avg about 825 fps with 14.3 gn pellets will go thru 1\2" plywood at 50 yds. My Tx also goes thru 1\2" plywood at 50 yds. In .177 cal at 900 fps...Just thinking your pcp would be shooting at a higher power.....

 

[5thumbs]

Rigby, My Daystates (Huntsman XL .177, and normal power Redwolf) all shoot the JSB 10.34 very well. Air Arms (10.34), also made by JSB, shoot a bit better than the JSB's. Give them a try. The improvement is consistent and definitely noticeable in my guns.

JT

 

[Emu]

At 70 yards looks like a shower.

.177 is a mess !!!

Well rested, with a good .25 at 80 yards you should be able to kill a fly. With a .30 it is a must.

With the best .177 if you kill the fly at 80 yards it would be a miracle.











day.

 

[elh0102]

JRP, I'm not sure of your goal. If you're looking for a pesting/hunting rifle for 70 meters, you need more gun. I love the .177, but it's a 40-50 yard rifle.

 

[rigbymauser]

Thanks you all.



This particular model of airgun isn`t a instrument for long range. It serves its purpose within 40-50meters. The pellet testing at further distance proves this. However It is interesting to observe the limitations. I will try other pellets aswell just for scientific purposes(fun really). I know a larger caliber has further reach if given the speed. I had JW80 which was more accurate than my Revere was in .177cal but it was a big thing haul around with. The Revere is light, short, backyard friendly, low noise, easy to operate and good looking. Its not a big long benchgun like a lot of other more powerfull guns we see here. The .177cal has its limitations,, but serves well in backyards or in other confided spaces. It gives some oppochunities for shooting were a larger caliber create a danger for the surroundings. I have had a bunch of .22lrs over the years and experienced this. I later got a Theoben Rapid in .25cal which did 50 ft/ibs and experienced the same same once within city limits. BTW when I had this Rapid in 2006 I casted 50grain .25ACP bullets . They did very well in the BSA rifled barrel. Later Theoben went with another barrelmaker.

The speed here wasn`t measured. The certificate from Daystate said 18,25 ft/ibs. 



I believe if the airgun industry started to make barrels with a sharper barreltwist like 1:12 the bounderies for a .177cal could be pushed with lower speeds. The standard 1:17 is outdated.

 

[elh0102]

I don't believe the slower twist is outdated, but it depends on what you're shooting. To expect precision accuracy from both a 10 and 16 grain pellet, from the same barrel, and the same power, is asking a lot. You are pushing the 16 grain at just a little over 700 fps, which I expect is a big part of the problem.

 

[rigbymauser]

Did a little more testing with some other pellets at 40 meters here today.

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6 shots with the Rabbit Magnum. 3 went of target

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Best pellets of the day..The H&N Hornet. Here is a pellet worth prepping(Corner the market..:LOL)

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9 shots with slugs

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Worst pellet ever. JSB Hades. Scatter all over the cardboard box.

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What surprised me was the Edgun slugs did ok and the Eun Jin pellets. 40 meters is "OK" but not further for hunting.

 

[Corvid_hunter]

Surprising results with the H&N Hornets.

 

[rigbymauser]

Surprising results with the H&N Hornets.

Yep. Are already looking to prep 20-40 tins.



Thank goodness I only bought 1 tin of Hades and Rabbit Magnum.



The sweetspot for the Revere is pellets around the 9-10grain. The EunJin 16,1 grain was a gamble as I bought the last 10 tins the dealer had. I want later to try the 19 grain Eun Jin. 
The only little thing I can have wished for on the Revere was an ajustable regulator like on the Leishy 2. Maybe some day somebody will invent that feature.

 

[CLWhite67]

My .22 Revere loves the JSB 15.89 diabolo and Hades pellets, and is great out to about 60 yards. I can hit targets out to 80-85, but not precisely enough to try a squirrel at that distance. However any squirrel inside 60 yards is a guaranteed goner!

 

[rigbymauser]

My .22 Revere loves the JSB 15.89 diabolo and Hades pellets, and is great out to about 60 yards. I can hit targets out to 80-85, but not precisely enough to try a squirrel at that distance. However any squirrel inside 60 yards is a guaranteed goner!

The JSB Hades pellet is somewhat identical their 10,34grain Exact which my Revere shoots so perfect with. 3 little indentments in the head to makes all the difference.

You are right in regards to hunting distance. Funny enough for targets and stuff out to 80yards and hunting to around 60yards. In .177 I would say 50 yards (hunting).From here on it simply needs more power and a heavier pellet that will shoot more accurate.

 

[tor47]

That is a really nice 40m group with the prefered pellets. All my FX guns, and also my taipan likes the 10 grains. Have so far not either got the heavier ones to shoot as well.

 

[rigbymauser]

Weather today was almost perfect. In the sun it felt like spring. Felt the urge to do some testing with the Revere.



Best pellet of among the ones I hadn`t tried before.

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These are not good quality. Had to sort them. Many were deform.

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Ain`t worth a flip..

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NOT a bad pellet for plinking hornets in the summertime

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Set the sights for the JSB 10,34grain . Checked how much the drop JSB 13,45grain did.

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[rigbymauser]

Did a little test here the other day using the pointy Samyang 17,1grain. Not bad. Must conclude the Daystate Revere generally is very versatile with most pellets.

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[squirrel_getter]

This is a very informative post. I enjoyed seeing all the groups with different pellets. It is puzzling to see the Hades groupings being all over the place. I have a .22 cal Revere & used JSB 18.13's for many months with lights out results. After reading about the JSB Hades I decided to give them a try. I have been using them for a couple months. They will easily group inside a dime at 30 yards (sight in distance) from a bench rest. I use them out to about 60 yards but prefer shots inside 45 yards. They shoot lights out in my Revere. I have never recovered a pellet because they pass through at about 28 fpe. I have read many posts of members using them in different guns with almost all having good results. Your testing just helps reiterate that all guns prefer certain ammo & you certainly proved this to be true. But... your gun hates the Hades. Thanks for the information. Good Read!

 

[rigbymauser]

Went for a quick shoot here last weekend. It was a little windy and my set-up was more or less field condition..but ok. Thats how it ought to be too once awhile.

The 13,45grain slug is ofcouse superior in windy condition. But pellets did ok too.

Distance here was 70meters. I later tried a .177cal silencer which actually improved accuracy for both pellets and slug. This surprised me and I will later do experiments with this to. The silencer makes such a .177cal that only do 18/ibs fleafart silent.

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[Zeke]

Has anyone tried the JSB knockout slugs, either weight in their.177 huntsman with good results and if so at what ranges. 
Thanks,
Zeke 

 

[rigbymauser]

Testing the ZAN 16 & 20grain slugs here today.

The 20grain were not good.
The 16grain was the best slug so far and declared winner.
My 40m shooting range is well shelted with trees and bushes. My 70m range is more open and I shoot down hill. Today as the wind was blowing I felt no wind at the 40m range...however shooting down the slope the 70m range wind is a player,,but it went ok.