Daystate Regal Huma Regulating and Cocking Effort Cleanup

I've been wanting to regulate a Regal for a few years and even tried the Altaros regulator on my first Regal but due to a lack of plenum it was a bust. This time on my second Regal I decided to go with the Huma XXL plenum and regulator. The XXL is designed for max power. I should have measured but the plenum was about 3" long. The original string from a 220bar fill (about 1/3 of the way into the Green zone cheesy looking DS gauge) looked like this, 16gr JSB's...909 911 915 915 924 923 929 937 935 927 936 935 936 942 935 938 937 938 936 938 941 942 940 939 944 934 936 930 930 924 923 925 914 918 909 (1/2 way into yellow) 929fps average over 35 shots, ES 35fps. 

After installing a Huma 250bar gauge and the regulator at 150bar, (NOTE was targeting 160 because that's where the velocity was the highest unregulated but it happened to turn out to be 150bar once installed which I called good) per my crystal test gauge and backing off the strike a little, 250bar fill, 904 902 907 907 900 909 907 896 904 906 906 903 909 906 905 906 897 903 903 902 902 901 899 903 900 902 899 904 892 893 901, 902.5 average fps over 31 shots ES 17. 

Overall I'm very pleased with the Huma's consistencyy. Before installation my POI was a little low of POA at 50-60yds then climbed and then go low again which was very annoying to me. I'm open to suggestion on gaining more shots but the long plenum and regulator may have cost me a few. Just post installation I was seeing some shot variations of 20-21fps between shots which to me indicated possibly a irregular hammer strike so I pulled the hammer assembly out and polished it and while at cleaned up the cocking pieces and gave those a polishing. This was the second time I had worked on those pieces but each time has shown some improvement to the smoothness of the cocking motion. The parts that I paid close attention to was the hammer, bolt, groove on the hammer housing where the cocking screw slides and the magazine cycling mechanism. 

The biggest hurdle of the project was getting the air tube to break free from the valve body. It took a little more heat than I wanted to use but it did finally come loose. The rest was just removing two orings from the valve housing for venting purposes and dropping in the regulator and plenum. 

Here are the parts that I cleaned up for improved cocking. 

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Ok first off you would get more shots just by shooting the 18.1 JSBs instead which has been historically the pellet of choice in the Regals. Secondly try running your string without that plastic spring guide that looks like a crude attempt to act as some kind of an hdd of sorts. That just may be causing your unexplained spikes. Another thing you may try is to install a smaller spring diameter and 2/3 the oal of the factory to run a dual spring to see if that improves your shot count as well. Be sure that smaller spring is significantly weaker. Test and if that doesn't work well then cut the small one to half the oal of the factory spring. While you are buying that smaller spring go match up an alternative weaker spring that's longer than the oem. You can get by with a weaker hammer spring since its regulated and you don't want to cut that factory spring.
 
Does yours have a single spring by itself, a spring with a plastic useless looking guide or twin spring? I can further comment if i knew exactly what yours has.

Nope, just the single spring. Exactly the same as my last FAC Regal. The plastic sleeve is a anti "TWANG" suppressor. Already tried that for improving cocking but it really don't have anything to do with the string or cocking. My previous Regal liked the 18's maybe a tad better but this one prefers the 16's. I got rid of the spikes if you'll look at the string again, probably by cleaning up the hammer. It had traces of some old lube probably from the bolt and adjacent pieces. Appreciate the tips.......

Jking


 
JKing

Thanks a great deal for the update & the very helpful photos

Better info thnt one could ever get in a month of Sundays from Daystate Tech Support

FWIW

I'm considering a Huma for my 25 Cal Regal XL

You probably know the following; but others might like to see it

From Huma comes this::

"Hello Edward The default plenum is 50 mm long and the XL is 80 mm long. The set range is 90-180 bar output All the best Team Huma-Air Van: Huma-Air BV "

Interesting however, that they did not answer the plenum volume question



Ed






 
JKing

Thanks a great deal for the update & the very helpful photos

Better info thnt one could ever get in a month of Sundays from Daystate Tech Support

FWIW

I'm considering a Huma for my 25 Cal Regal XL

You probably know the following; but others might like to see it

From Huma comes this::

"Hello Edward The default plenum is 50 mm long and the XL is 80 mm long. The set range is 90-180 bar output All the best Team Huma-Air Van: Huma-Air BV "

Interesting however, that they did not answer the plenum volume question



Ed






Thanks for sharing that Ed, I didn't measure it but I was guessing 3 inches after I already had it installed. Dang, missed it by .15" (3.15"). I probably could have got by with the 50mm but Huub recommended the XXL for max power. BTW the 50mm is 1.97". 

I believe Bigragu is going to do a 25cal as well. You might share thoughts with him. How many shots does it get now and what kind of ES are you seeing over the string? 

Jking