Daystate compressor NEW
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@CsBrown5 Do you have a link? I’m wondering if they look like the new line of Coltri compressors considering that in the past Daystate rebranded and modified (I think they modified them) the Coltri MCH-6.
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No, I tried to order one from a company out of Florida and they said that Daystate was coming out with a new compressor didn’t know if anybody else had heard
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If Daystate dont even show it on their www, then it must be pretty new!
https://daystate.com/air-compressor/
Maybe they updated from a 3 piston to a true 4 piston and all the advantages of the MCH-6?
https://daystate.com/air-compressor/
Maybe they updated from a 3 piston to a true 4 piston and all the advantages of the MCH-6?
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It’s a rebranded Coltri compressor. A version of the MCH6. I have the 3cylinder Daystate version or Coltri MCH3 with 20 hours on it no problems.
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I have the Daystate LC110 four piston I purchased in 2018. It seems they only made a few of them and went back to the 3 piston
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I wonder how Daystate reduced the weight of the T3 by 22+lbs when compared to a standard MCH3.
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The new Daystate is similar to the older Coltri MCH-6, and newer Coltri Icon. Here is a pretty good, short, review of the changes, from a scuba board-
https://scubaboard.com/community/threads/new-icon-compressor-from-coltri.615426/
This is the summary-
https://scubaboard.com/community/threads/new-icon-compressor-from-coltri.615426/
This is the summary-
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87lbs for the current Coltri MCH6.
83lbs for the new Coltri Icon (report seems to indicate lighter castings & lighter motor).
64lbs for the new Daystate T3.
What else is different on the T3 to account for a much lower weight?
Another interesting spec is the noise level. The new Icon is noisier than the MCH6. 94db vs 91db.
83lbs for the new Coltri Icon (report seems to indicate lighter castings & lighter motor).
64lbs for the new Daystate T3.
What else is different on the T3 to account for a much lower weight?
Another interesting spec is the noise level. The new Icon is noisier than the MCH6. 94db vs 91db.
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I'll bet you $$$ for donuts that it's a 110V motor and as such is @1,1kW or 1½hp. That gives a much lighter motor and the stated weight savings.
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The 110v motor at 1.1kw will draw just as much current as the 220v motor at 2.2kw. They will need equal amounts of copper windings. So voltage can't be the reason for being "much lighter". The 110v MCH3 weighs about the same as the 220v MCH6.
It is possible that they reduced the thickness of the crankcase walls, frame, and motor housing for weight reduction. That might also be why it's noisier.
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Yes!!!
Because the rest of the motor has to be scaled up to carry the additional 1.1kW. It's psychics.
The difference is 1 cylinder and some plumbing + the scaled down electric motor!
They state 8kg~18lbs difference.
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One feature the LC-110 lacked that might account for some weight savings on the Icon 50 as compared to the Icon 100 is a desiccant filter. None of the photos of the Icon 50 show it from the side where the filter housing is located. A desiccant filter should be included in any $2,000 plus compressor and ought to be a requirement for anyone in this sport.
One specification that is problematical IMO is the high rpm's that MCH-6s and Icon 100 LSEs run at in order to reach their rated fill speed of 3.5CF per minute. The high rpms cause the 94 decibel noise level as well as more wear and tear on the compressor. Only time will tell if the weight savings from replacing steel components with aluminum will be worth the trade off in long term durability.
One specification that is problematical IMO is the high rpm's that MCH-6s and Icon 100 LSEs run at in order to reach their rated fill speed of 3.5CF per minute. The high rpms cause the 94 decibel noise level as well as more wear and tear on the compressor. Only time will tell if the weight savings from replacing steel components with aluminum will be worth the trade off in long term durability.
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Chickenthief,
Yes - you are correct. I made some incorrect assumptions. There may be more than meets the eye. While the Icon 100 is only slightly lighter than the MCH6, the Icon 50 shows significantly lighter than the MCH3. So it looks like there might have been some significant redesign for the MCH3 replacement (if that’s what it is).
For a compressor where portability is important, less weight is good.
Yes - you are correct. I made some incorrect assumptions. There may be more than meets the eye. While the Icon 100 is only slightly lighter than the MCH6, the Icon 50 shows significantly lighter than the MCH3. So it looks like there might have been some significant redesign for the MCH3 replacement (if that’s what it is).
For a compressor where portability is important, less weight is good.
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I was thinking along those lines, as well. However, most vehicle engines now have aluminum blocks and they seem to do fine. I suspect it will come down to the quality of the original casting.
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Where is the best place to buy one of these Coltri made compressors?
Is Nuvair the best option, or AoA with the Daystate branded one.
Is Nuvair the best option, or AoA with the Daystate branded one.
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My two cents- stay away from the Daystate Type 1- too many issues. The Daystate type 2 offers a great deal of value, for the money. AOA is a good business to deal with.
My Coltri MCH-6 came from Nuvair, many years ago. It is still running great with only basic maintenance, no issues at all. Nuvair can help you fix it, if something does go bad. Nuvair is also a great company to deal with
If I were to do it all over again, I would choose a Bauer Jr II; though. Simply because there are more dealers across the US. I could have picked it up in person. Instead of shipping the Coltri, that money could have gone toward paying for the higher priced Bauer. Also, having a Bauer repair shop within an easy drive of my home would be nice,
https://www.bauercomp.com/en/distributor-finder
My Coltri MCH-6 came from Nuvair, many years ago. It is still running great with only basic maintenance, no issues at all. Nuvair can help you fix it, if something does go bad. Nuvair is also a great company to deal with
If I were to do it all over again, I would choose a Bauer Jr II; though. Simply because there are more dealers across the US. I could have picked it up in person. Instead of shipping the Coltri, that money could have gone toward paying for the higher priced Bauer. Also, having a Bauer repair shop within an easy drive of my home would be nice,
https://www.bauercomp.com/en/distributor-finder
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