Made in Spain Daisy 22 HPs have gotten a lot of good talk on the interwebs lately. Lots of talk of how great the new Spanish hollow points perform and look. I wandered through the sporting goods section of my local Wal Mart to pick up a tin of CPHP and saw they had some made in Spain 177 pointed pellets. I only recalled seeing the HP talked about for the most part and I've not seem much on these so I bought a couple of tins to try out.
First impressions were positive. They have a nice clean polished look and the mold line is much less pronounced than the Crosman PHP's that I normally shoot out of my Fortitude. I weighed a group of 10 pellets at 76.2gr for an average of 7.62gr a little short of the advertised... wait i just realized they don't advertise a weight on the packaging. I thought it was 7.8gr not now that I look I don't see a weight listed on the package. I weighed a 2nd group of 10 and got the exact same 76.2gr for 7.62gr average. At this point I had high hopes for them. Clean, looks good, no obvious deformed babies in a quick glance through the tin.
Once the shooting started it went down hill from there. Wild was an understatement. At 15 yards most of my shots could be seen curving hard to the left. out of the barrel
(Colored dot shows the point of aim)
10 shots Daily Precision Max 177 Made in Spain
Maybe my Fortitude hates pointed pellets? I admit this was the first time I've shot a pointed pellet out of the rifle. Maybe there is a hidden feeding problem that damages the pellet that only show itself with pointed pellets? I'm not a pointed pellet shooter and I've never had the best of luck with 22 cal pointed pellets in the past in my other rifles. But a ~1" group is a far cry from a pellet curving wild'y to the left like it was throw by Clayton Kershaw. I have some JBS Sranton 8.26gr pointed pellets in 177 I've never shot and they have a very similar shape and profile to the Daisy pellets so I loaded up 5 of those and got this:
JBS Straton 8.26gr
JBS with just 5 shots made a great group. The Daisy on the other hand... I've never had a pellet shoot so wildly out of any air rifle I've ever shot before except the one time I had baffle strikes in a brand new 3D printed moderator . I'm wondering if I'm getting baffle strikes which is causing curving so wildly to the left with the Daisy pellets. My current hypothesis is that the pellet must be yawing as it exits the barrel and clips a baffle sending it spiraling to the left. Not sure what else could cause an almost 2" curving miss to one side at only 15 yards.
Wondering if the pellet would be more stable at lower energies I turned my Fortitude down to 2 turns of the hammer spring and it still printed a wild pattern. I then tuned it down to 1 turn on the hammer spring, the lowest setting that it makes consistent FPS. With it tuned down to 1 turn I got 6 of the 10 through one hole but still threw 4 wild fliers.
10 shots Daily Precision Max 177 Made in Spain low power
The price is right and the pellet looks good but it's just not a shooter out of my rifle. Maybe it would shoot better out of lower energy setups? As I only own one 177 pellet shooter I guess this tin will get put in the bottom of the pile and be forever forgotten about.
First impressions were positive. They have a nice clean polished look and the mold line is much less pronounced than the Crosman PHP's that I normally shoot out of my Fortitude. I weighed a group of 10 pellets at 76.2gr for an average of 7.62gr a little short of the advertised... wait i just realized they don't advertise a weight on the packaging. I thought it was 7.8gr not now that I look I don't see a weight listed on the package. I weighed a 2nd group of 10 and got the exact same 76.2gr for 7.62gr average. At this point I had high hopes for them. Clean, looks good, no obvious deformed babies in a quick glance through the tin.
Once the shooting started it went down hill from there. Wild was an understatement. At 15 yards most of my shots could be seen curving hard to the left. out of the barrel
(Colored dot shows the point of aim)
10 shots Daily Precision Max 177 Made in Spain
Maybe my Fortitude hates pointed pellets? I admit this was the first time I've shot a pointed pellet out of the rifle. Maybe there is a hidden feeding problem that damages the pellet that only show itself with pointed pellets? I'm not a pointed pellet shooter and I've never had the best of luck with 22 cal pointed pellets in the past in my other rifles. But a ~1" group is a far cry from a pellet curving wild'y to the left like it was throw by Clayton Kershaw. I have some JBS Sranton 8.26gr pointed pellets in 177 I've never shot and they have a very similar shape and profile to the Daisy pellets so I loaded up 5 of those and got this:
JBS Straton 8.26gr
JBS with just 5 shots made a great group. The Daisy on the other hand... I've never had a pellet shoot so wildly out of any air rifle I've ever shot before except the one time I had baffle strikes in a brand new 3D printed moderator . I'm wondering if I'm getting baffle strikes which is causing curving so wildly to the left with the Daisy pellets. My current hypothesis is that the pellet must be yawing as it exits the barrel and clips a baffle sending it spiraling to the left. Not sure what else could cause an almost 2" curving miss to one side at only 15 yards.
Wondering if the pellet would be more stable at lower energies I turned my Fortitude down to 2 turns of the hammer spring and it still printed a wild pattern. I then tuned it down to 1 turn on the hammer spring, the lowest setting that it makes consistent FPS. With it tuned down to 1 turn I got 6 of the 10 through one hole but still threw 4 wild fliers.
10 shots Daily Precision Max 177 Made in Spain low power
The price is right and the pellet looks good but it's just not a shooter out of my rifle. Maybe it would shoot better out of lower energy setups? As I only own one 177 pellet shooter I guess this tin will get put in the bottom of the pile and be forever forgotten about.
