Anyone else tired of hearing how crystal clear a scope is, then seeing some of the crappiest, blurry, chromatic aberrated scope cam footage around? Yeah, I'm over it, too!
Crystal clear!
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I have found that my scope cams do not play well with some Scopes. The issue is in the camera, more than the scope.
I do hope you are able to get over your disappointment
I do hope you are able to get over your disappointment
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That's why you only buy from return friendly dealers or Ebay with their guarantee. Sometimes Amazon has their FREE RETURNS on certain listings (beware of counterfeits there though). I return a ridiculous amount of overpriced overhyped sub par scopes due to clarity issues at maximum power which is where I start at. Cranked up all the way to max zoom then see if I keep it or not it's that simple. I pretty much already know what's crap out there.
Many have bad eyesight so they can't see chromatic aberration and milkiness so even if they got ripped off on a really terrible scope they will still be happy and content with theirs thinking theirs are perfectly crystal clear all the way to max power all the time.
Scope companies need people like this to stay in business. Some have never looked through a tier 1 scope before so they think it's normal to be only clear up to 2/3 to 3/4 of the way and never got lucky to find those diamonds in the rough for cheap that are 100% clear all the way.
Many have bad eyesight so they can't see chromatic aberration and milkiness so even if they got ripped off on a really terrible scope they will still be happy and content with theirs thinking theirs are perfectly crystal clear all the way to max power all the time.
Scope companies need people like this to stay in business. Some have never looked through a tier 1 scope before so they think it's normal to be only clear up to 2/3 to 3/4 of the way and never got lucky to find those diamonds in the rough for cheap that are 100% clear all the way.
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FWIW It's next to impossible to get flawless footage thru a scope with any camera setup . The angle of the sun can cause havock even if you are filming in the shade .The smallest smear on and surface just gets blown out and worsened , the air gap between the camera and the ocular lens is the real killer . Plus most cameras just weren't designed for that purpose .
I've had days a scope that is just average has turned in some Incredible footage ...And truly top shelf scopes I just leave the range with no usable footage because for whatever reason .....It just won't come together that day ( with the exact same rig from the previous day )
Some of the super crisp edge scope images are cropped or used with an overlay that takes out the very edge of what the camera recorded . It's an easy fix in editing , but I don't do it because I try and show what the native camera recorded . The best I've probably seen is Claudio's footage ...But then again that's a $1500 one of a kind rig , filming thru a $3500 scope , by a guy who knows how to set up a camera and scope cam rig for the very best effect .
It's the same with the image being flat as a pancake , but thru a camera lense it can appear distorted . Even on the very best setups .
To my mind , the larger the expense , the more research is warranted. Plus a good helping of scepticism isn't the worst of ideas. Crystal clear for a $800 scope isn't the same standard as for $3000 scopes . At least not to me
But it can be SUPER frustrating when any " Reviewer" never has anything negative to say about any product .
" THEY CANT ALL BE 10s " David Spade , Grown Ups
I've had days a scope that is just average has turned in some Incredible footage ...And truly top shelf scopes I just leave the range with no usable footage because for whatever reason .....It just won't come together that day ( with the exact same rig from the previous day )
Some of the super crisp edge scope images are cropped or used with an overlay that takes out the very edge of what the camera recorded . It's an easy fix in editing , but I don't do it because I try and show what the native camera recorded . The best I've probably seen is Claudio's footage ...But then again that's a $1500 one of a kind rig , filming thru a $3500 scope , by a guy who knows how to set up a camera and scope cam rig for the very best effect .
It's the same with the image being flat as a pancake , but thru a camera lense it can appear distorted . Even on the very best setups .
To my mind , the larger the expense , the more research is warranted. Plus a good helping of scepticism isn't the worst of ideas. Crystal clear for a $800 scope isn't the same standard as for $3000 scopes . At least not to me
But it can be SUPER frustrating when any " Reviewer" never has anything negative to say about any product .
" THEY CANT ALL BE 10s " David Spade , Grown Ups
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You can't judge the quality of a scope by the quality of the video a scope-cam produces through it unless you know the specifics of the scope-cam system, the camera settings, and the lighting conditions. Many of those folks could very possibly have a scope that is very clear to view through with the eye. However, even a near-perfect NightForce ATACR image sent through a 50/50 beam splitter, then through a replacement lens on a GoPro, and recorded on a GoPro with less than optimal setting for the given conditions, and even the best scope can produce incredibly ugly video.
Do you know how many people will spend hundreds, sometimes thousands of dollars on a high-end scope, then $250 on a Side-Shot mount, and $300 on a GoPro Hero7, then finish their scope-cam's optical system with a 12mm GoPro replacement lens from Banggood that cost $4.89? Sometimes you really DO get what you pay for.
Most people don't realize there is a lot more to getting quality footage than just putting a scope-cam on a scope and hitting record until they actually start making scope recordings, and outstanding scopes can indeed be used to produce awful video image quality.
Do you know how many people will spend hundreds, sometimes thousands of dollars on a high-end scope, then $250 on a Side-Shot mount, and $300 on a GoPro Hero7, then finish their scope-cam's optical system with a 12mm GoPro replacement lens from Banggood that cost $4.89? Sometimes you really DO get what you pay for.
Most people don't realize there is a lot more to getting quality footage than just putting a scope-cam on a scope and hitting record until they actually start making scope recordings, and outstanding scopes can indeed be used to produce awful video image quality.
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