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Will my gun shoot slugs? A question asked so often these days even though there is seldom a reason to shoot slugs most of the time.

Still it is hard to say unless you have the gun and have shot slugs in it before.

I have had excellent results <MOA at 100 yards shooting slugs as slow as 740fps in my .25 Impact so speed is not everything. It depends on your barrel and your rig how well it will shoot specific slugs.

Most who shoot break barrels will say that they do not shoot slugs. But I would say with all of the slugs on the market these days there is a good chance it will shoot at least one of them fairly well. But it can cost some serious cash to experiment and find out just which slug it is that will shoot, well enough to be worth the money, in your gun.
 
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Hunter,

I shoot my F4 accurately at 50 yards with the H&N Baracuda Hunter Extremes, as I posted on your other thread. I tried H&N Rabbit Magnum IIs, as well, they worked, just not very accurate. That note, "For PCPs rifles only," on the Rabbit Magnum tin, meant little to me as I didn't know what a PCP even was. Researching what it meant got me started down the slippery slope you may hear mentioned. If you enter "H&N Rabbit Magnums" in the AGN SEARCH section, you might find a thread I faintly recall of someone claiming success with a springer.
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No the F4 is barely a pellet shooter, A good enough 20 yrd gun but the only way to make it past 1000 fps with slug is through dieseling.
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This ^^^ if you can handle a light AG with more jump due to the NP than is warranted for the power and loudness.

I've seen/read many claims concerning this AG, but never have seen any actual evidence to prove any claims of accuracy or anything else for that matter concerning the Fire/F4.

Nothing.

BTW, I found the "artillery hold" to be useless for accuracy. At least with the Fire. I have had to hold everything as solid as I could to get any accuracy at all. And I did take quite a few tree rats with it. However, I missed more shots than I hit and I believe that is the truth of it with the Fire/F4 for most people.

JMHO based on my experience with the Fire/F4... (grin)



When I got my first Nova Vista Freedom .177, I went from about 24% accuracy (hits on pests) to about 95% accuracy with most shots being DRT.


My Fortitude Gen2 is not as accurate as the Freedoms were, but MUCH more accuracy/precision than I could ever have hoped to achieve with the Fire/F4.

Damnit, I have to quit editing/updating/adding to my replies... (chuckle)
 
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Then how do you want someone to prove to you that they can be accurate with the rifle if you won't accept the proof. The crossman f4 is the only gun I own so you could either except the proof I give you or not that would be up to you and just cause you can't be accurate with the rifle don't mean other people can't. If you want video proof go to YouTube look it up there are plenty of reviews and plenty of people holding groups there would be your video proof.
 
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Hunter,

I've found Backstop to be a very decent, congenial Member, on this forum, and appreciate his input on many topics. His experience with the Crosman F4 left a negative impression, while ours is a positive one. I've neither the inclination, equipment nor skill set to produce a video, to prove or disprove anything. My neighbor sold me this one year old Benjamin (Crosman) .22 Trail NP XL for $25 (He paid $260,) because he hated it, too hard to cock, terrible trigger and inaccurate with any of the dozen pellet types tried. I cleaned the barrel, did Crosman trigger mod, learned "Artillery Hold" and found it liked the H&N Sniper Magnum (17.90 grain.) Since then I've sent crows, armadillos and raccoons to join the Choir Invisible with one shot kills. I translated what I'd learned to making my F4 an accurate shooter, as well, and I'll leave it at that. I've purchased three PCPs since then and found their accuracy to be at a whole new level, however, be warned, it's an expensive, slippery slope, for that privilege! Happy Shooting,
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Then how do you want someone to prove to you that they can be accurate with the rifle if you won't accept the proof. The crossman f4 is the only gun I own so you could either except the proof I give you or not that would be up to you and just cause you can't be accurate with the rifle don't mean other people can't. If you want video proof go to YouTube look it up there are plenty of reviews and plenty of people holding groups there would be your video proof.
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No offense intended. My apologies.

When I owned the Fire/F4 I viewed all of the videos you are referring to, including the one you posted. They DID give me some comfort that the Fire/F4 might be able to be shot with accuracy. However, at least for me and the Fire, it was just not consistently accurate enough to insure clean kills and none of the videos proved anything different for me.

I sincerely hope your experience is different than my own, but I think you will find as I did, that you will want something MUCH easier to shooting consistently and accurately than the Fire/F4 before too long and that may end up being another springer or you may decide to do as I did and try a PCP. Both platforms have their warts. (grin)

Hunter,

I've found Backstop to be a very decent, congenial Member, on this forum, and appreciate his input on many topics. His experience with the Crosman F4 left a negative impression, while ours is a positive one. I've neither the inclination, equipment nor skill set to produce a video, to prove or disprove anything. My neighbor sold me this one year old Benjamin (Crosman) .22 Trail NP XL for $25 (He paid $260,) because he hated it, too hard to cock, terrible trigger and inaccurate with any of the dozen pellet types tried. I cleaned the barrel, did Crosman trigger mod, learned "Artillery Hold" and found it liked the H&N Sniper Magnum (17.90 grain.) Since then I've sent crows, armadillos and raccoons to join the Choir Invisible with one shot kills. I translated what I'd learned to making my F4 an accurate shooter, as well, and I'll leave it at that. I've purchased three PCPs since then and found their accuracy to be at a whole new level, however, be warned, it's an expensive, slippery slope, for that privilege! Happy Shooting,
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Thank you for the kind words! Yes, when you don't have to worry about the gun jumping around, consistent accuracy is much easier to attain.

However, let me say that there are plenty of people using higher end quality springers that can probably shoot rings around me and my Fortitude.

I simply want to hit what I aim at as often as possible and have found PCP to be the best platform for me to do that well.

Best wishes to all.
 
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Backstop,

I calls em, like I sees em. You're an asset to the Nation, no doubt about it.

Hunter,

Don't think you were out of line, at all. Hang around long enough, you'll see some, thankfully rare, that more appropriately qualify for that distinction.

I ordered two 400ct tins of H&N Baracuda Hunter Extremes from Pyramyd Air yesterday for $15.99 each. They offer a, "Buy 3, Get 1 Free," deal as well as a 15% discount. I also picked up some Predator Polymags for my Gauntlet, so got one of the 400ct. tins for free. This is H&N Sampler pack I mentioned before, you'll see the Hornet and Baracuda Hunter Extremes are lowest in volume. You could buy the Sampler and try for yourself, but I'd suggest trying the Hornet or, better yet, the Baracuda Hunter Extremes first and see what you think. Best Regards, WM
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