Cross eye dominant

[Mark B]

I'm new to air rifles. Had a Slavia 618 breakbarrel as a kid looong ago. Shot many handguns over the years, and the F-15's M61A1 20mm gun for 3+ years in Okinawa. Now retired, I'm interested in getting rid of some pesky squirrels.

Learning to shoot lefty is not an option due to a slight defect on my left retina, even though it is my dominant eye. And using a traditional scope is a one-eye process as well, which won't work for me. I need to use both eyes, ergo a red-dot. I became reasonably good with handguns using a red-dot sight and both eyes. However I've been told by some knowledgeable airgunners that gas ram and spring piston rifles will destroy a red-dot.

So I'm looking for suggestions, maybe some combinations, from you dedicated airgunners. The red-dot I have is a Holosun 403B. I want a quality rifle and was considering a breakbarrel Weihrauch. I'd also like something mid-sized that my grandson could learn. Not a big fan of the extra equipment required of PCP or CO2 but these damn squirrels may dictate otherwise. Thanks in advance for your input.

 

[Joedirt199]

Going to have a difficult time shooting left eye/right shoulder. Just went through this with a cadet in the police academy durring firearms instruction. May be better off getting a Notos with a reddot as it can be shot like a pistol. It is a pcp but you can air it up with a simple bicycle style high pressure pump, $50 Amazon ones works great. The small tank will make it easy to pump up. Plenty of shooters on here praising the accuracy of their Notos'.

 

[stovepipe]

Hi Mark B. Check out this thread

N/A - Dots, Peeps or Scopes ??

I like to shoot all three. It’s amazing to me when my eyes are behaving just how accurate one can be without any magnification. I probably have as many dots on airguns as scopes. Also some diopters. Just fun for me to mix it up. The dots amaze me the most. Pistol or rifle they are accurate, fun...

www.airgunnation.com

There is a post (number 12) showing a red dot and the poster says it's OK with spring piston rifles. It's also inexpensive, so not much to lose. Cheers.

stovepipe

 

[Michael]

I am right handed and left eye dominant. The best advise I can give is when using a traditional scope try to keep both eyes open. Choose a scope that has a forgiving eye box, and stay away from using the highest magnification (which typically makes the eye box / eye less forgiving).

I have successfully used a red dot (technically a reflex dot) on low powered spring guns. One thing you'll want to look for is an optic with multiple dots or reticles for holdover. Because chances of a squirrel / target always being at the same distance is slim. And as you'll find a pellet can drop quite a bit after your zero points.

Another thing to consider is that spring guns are notoriously hard on some optics. Make sure your optic is "spring gun rated". I use a small Hawke scope with Sportsmatch rings on my springer.

If you're just shooting squirrels at say less than 50 yards you don't need much power. A low to medium power spring gun will suffice.

Pyramyd AIR has a great tool to help you find what you need

Here's a link to the tool

Step-by-Step Buying Guides | Pyramyd AIR

Step-by-Step Buying Guides | Pyramyd AIR

www.pyramydair.com

and a link that I narrowed down to spring gun for pest control

Air Rifles | Powerful Hunting & Target Rifles | Pyramyd AIR

Shop quality air rifles for all purposes, from hunting to competition. Expert advice is available to find the best air rifle for your shooting style.

www.pyramydair.com

Keep in mind this thread was created in the Optics forum. For more Spring gun advice try starting a thread in the Traditional forum

-Michael

 

[Mark B]

The reason this is posted on the optics page is that's the limiting factor for me, what sight I use and how it's affected by vibration of different airguns.

 

[Jay308]

You can use a scope with both eyes open(I do) and you can also just tape over the left lens on your shooting glasses(keeping both eyes open). This should allow you to use your right eye and train it at the same time. Give it a go for a few sessions and see.

I was cross eye dominate as a kid and I trained myself with a eye patch because I was a crazy kid that was in love with shooting. I’m a natural lefty but I’m also ambidextrous.

 

[student]

Years ago i used to compete with an Aimpoint on an AR platform. Those competitions were pretty brutal on equipment and my aimpoint red dot never failed, it's still going strong many years later and countless rounds through it, dropped in mud and water etc. etc......the company is awesome to deal with if you do run into a problem. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them. they have military discounts and sometimes you can find nice ones used and hardly used.

 

[Mark B]

Going to have a difficult time shooting left eye/right shoulder. Just went through this with a cadet in the police academy durring firearms instruction. May be better off getting a Notos with a reddot as it can be shot like a pistol. It is a pcp but you can air it up with a simple bicycle style high pressure pump, $50 Amazon ones works great. The small tank will make it easy to pump up. Plenty of shooters on here praising the accuracy of their Notos'.

Thanks, Joe.

 

[Mark B]

Years ago i used to compete with an Aimpoint on an AR platform. Those competitions were pretty brutal on equipment and my aimpoint red dot never failed, it's still going strong many years later and countless rounds through it, dropped in mud and water etc. etc......the company is awesome to deal with if you do run into a problem. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them. they have military discounts and sometimes you can find nice ones used and hardly used.

Thanks, Max

 

[Mark B]

Hi Mark B. Check out this thread

N/A - Dots, Peeps or Scopes ??

I like to shoot all three. It’s amazing to me when my eyes are behaving just how accurate one can be without any magnification. I probably have as many dots on airguns as scopes. Also some diopters. Just fun for me to mix it up. The dots amaze me the most. Pistol or rifle they are accurate, fun...

www.airgunnation.com

There is a post (number 12) showing a red dot and the poster says it's OK with spring piston rifles. It's also inexpensive, so not much to lose. Cheers.

stovepipe

Thanks, Stovep[pe

 

[Mark B]

I am right handed and left eye dominant. The best advise I can give is when using a traditional scope try to keep both eyes open. Choose a scope that has a forgiving eye box, and stay away from using the highest magnification (which typically makes the eye box / eye less forgiving).

I have successfully used a red dot (technically a reflex dot) on low powered spring guns. One thing you'll want to look for is an optic with multiple dots or reticles for holdover. Because chances of a squirrel / target always being at the same distance is slim. And as you'll find a pellet can drop quite a bit after your zero points.

Another thing to consider is that spring guns are notoriously hard on some optics. Make sure your optic is "spring gun rated". I use a small Hawke scope with Sportsmatch rings on my springer.

If you're just shooting squirrels at say less than 50 yards you don't need much power. A low to medium power spring gun will suffice.

Pyramyd AIR has a great tool to help you find what you need

Here's a link to the tool

Step-by-Step Buying Guides | Pyramyd AIR

Step-by-Step Buying Guides | Pyramyd AIR

www.pyramydair.com

and a link that I narrowed down to spring gun for pest control

Air Rifles | Powerful Hunting & Target Rifles | Pyramyd AIR

Shop quality air rifles for all purposes, from hunting to competition. Expert advice is available to find the best air rifle for your shooting style.

www.pyramydair.com

Keep in mind this thread was created in the Optics forum. For more Spring gun advice try starting a thread in the Traditional forum

-Michael

I asked Holosun this question: I have a 5 year old Holosun 403B. I'd like to use it on an air rifle pellet gun. Some airgunners say spring piston and gas ram rifles will destroy the 403. My question is how much vibration can the 403 withstand? Any recommendations on what type of air rifle to use the 403 on?

This was their answer: Thank you for contacting Holosun. The HS403B will be able to handle the vibration no problem.