Crosman pcp for ar 15

[badammo]

A while back crosman had a pcp upper for the ar 15. The unit was fairly low powered and quite expensive for what it was. The upper would have been great if higher power and larger caliber.
Does anyone know what happened to that idea? And why no one else has tried something similar?

 

[agnthooziast]

I think many people that wanted to lower the power of their ar's went with the .22lr conversion kits that are relatively inexpensive to buy and feed

 

[Saltlake58]

https://www.crosman.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=mar177

It went into production, but I suspect with a price tag of $650, and you must buy a lower to go with it, and it's only a .177 designed as a 10 meter gun, it's a lot of money for what you get. If I could find one today, I'd be sorely tempted to buy it. Lothar Walthar barrel if I remember correctly, really accurate at 10 meters and you can practice with your lower. But for $650, you can run a lot of .22 long rifle through a converted upper. Just seemed to be a niche that didn't resonate with the target market.

 

[badammo]

Yes it would have seemed that Crosman would have picked up the power and make it a hunting rig. There was a lot of effort put into the design, too bad they just gave up.

 

[Saltlake58]

I think the competition from the .22 conversion kits are what really killed it. Even at today's prices, you can spend under $200 for the conversion kit, and have $450 left over for .22 ammunition. I can buy a LOT of .22 ammunition for $450!

Then add in the air tanks or a pump and such required for a PCP and for the average AR-15 shooter, it really doesn't make sense. And to top that off, I believe it came out before the PCP Air Rifle revolution really took off. Fantastic design, but over priced for a very limited market segment.

To add to the complexity, if I want to shoot my pellet gun in the back yard, it's pretty much legal. If I want to shoot the MAR-177 in the back yard, it's still considered a "Fire Arm" because it sits on a registered gun (lower). I'd love to have one, but considering for the price I could buy a Marauder or three Maximus rifles or two Gauntlets, you can see the limited appeal.

 

[badammo]

Oh the technicalities, I agree with you on all the counts, not to mention having it suppressed. Is it a firearm or air gun. Not a distinction I would want to be involved in. 
It was a neat idea.

 

[17hornet]

Pilkington guns made a top end for a couple of years, 177and I think was using an s200 bottle...I had one for a while, it shot well, but it just wasn’t a keeper...
Mike

 

[John "spysir" Blount]

Fairly sure Crosman purchased some rights to that unit from Scott (?). 
An excellent product tho not intended for the general "airgun" market, just like their Bow's .... intended for different market shares. It does use air but, so does another companies "airbow" which uses air to cock a compound cross bow.

Made to give competition AR shooters trigger time, you can not practice follow through & such with a snap cap. A bit on the original design:
AR-15 air gun: BF-17[/QUOTE]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/17/ar-15-air-gun-bf-17/embed/#?secret=fqaJQwnLJm
And the big camp perry press release:
http://www.odcmp.org/0209/NMAir2.asp

John