Coyote suggestions
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I only see banter and drivel coming from you. You ask this dude questions, he provides numerous examples, finds a video, and you mince a way to an argument on about every point. At this point I bet you'd argue the color of the sky if he said it was blue. Seems the only motivation you have is to argue and not learn. I wasn't going to say anything until that statement you posted in the quote above, so do some self reflection. I also have no desire to internet special Olympics argue with you, so don't be surprised if you get no further response from me.
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Been hunting coyote for 20 years and last 5 with airguns occasionally, and air is my least picked choice. Only use it if I am close to town, need silence and going for specific distances. my 30 is set up for over 100fpe and it still most of the time has the target hit the third gear before the crash. Oh they do crash but it’s a pain. Some drop right away from head shots or good body shot but not the exception. Want drop in their tracks you need powder. My 22mag does the trick many times for fun, but bigger leaves no doubt. @Vetmx is 100% right. Airguns have limits, is what it is. Would like to see how a Mora 357 with 145 griffin would do though
I'm sure a Zeus in 0.58 or larger would do just dandy even for lung shots. But it probably just as loud as a PB, with excess range and penetration, you might as well just use a PB. A 45 colt or ACP would be about the same as a .58 Zeus and about the same loudness if shot from a rifle.
Zeus claims to have a 95 caliber but I don't see it listed.
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I have a 30 Cal pcp that will embarrass your .22 mag, you must not know too much about pcpsBeen hunting coyote for 20 years and last 5 with airguns occasionally, and air is my least picked choice. Only use it if I am close to town, need silence and going for specific distances. my 30 is set up for over 100fpe and it still most of the time has the target hit the third gear before the crash. Oh they do crash but it’s a pain. Some drop right away from head shots or good body shot but not the exception. Want drop in their tracks you need powder. My 22mag does the trick many times for fun, but bigger leaves no doubt. @Vetmx is 100% right. Airguns have limits, is what it is. Would like to see how a Mora 357 with 145 griffin would do though
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Been said already but that's a really light slug and rapid expansion. I'm shooting 62.5g @ 1000fps / 139fpe and at 100 yards it's still over 100fpe
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I used PBs for a lot longer than I have used airguns. Most PB coyote hunters want a 22/250. Even a 223 is considered a bit "light". I have not see credible arguments that a 22 magnum rimfire will not work, but serious hunters pick more powerful guns in my opinion.
That doesn't dictate what airguns we use but I think we should consider their experience. I believe airguns are more similar to big bore pistols where fpe is not a great indicator of killing effectiveness. So I am comfortable with less fpe than a PB given the larger projectile diameter. But I wouldn't use a 22 caliber airgun regardless of fpe. I think a 25 or bigger is necessary to ensure the hole in the coyote is big enough to quickly end its life. A 30 or 357 does not seem like overkill to me. But regardless of caliber I would also test to ensure the projectile and gun will provide enough penetration to get through the coyote. I test in wet magazines and would want to see on the order of 20 magazines of around 75 pages. I would only use an expanding projectile if I had more penetration than this.
That doesn't dictate what airguns we use but I think we should consider their experience. I believe airguns are more similar to big bore pistols where fpe is not a great indicator of killing effectiveness. So I am comfortable with less fpe than a PB given the larger projectile diameter. But I wouldn't use a 22 caliber airgun regardless of fpe. I think a 25 or bigger is necessary to ensure the hole in the coyote is big enough to quickly end its life. A 30 or 357 does not seem like overkill to me. But regardless of caliber I would also test to ensure the projectile and gun will provide enough penetration to get through the coyote. I test in wet magazines and would want to see on the order of 20 magazines of around 75 pages. I would only use an expanding projectile if I had more penetration than this.
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