Coyote hunt, skunked again

[ZekeZX10]

Any successful coyote hunters out there your input is more than welcome. Talked to a local guy out here it's been hunting this area for a long time said these coyotes are pressured so much and everyone's using callers now he said you're better off using a mouth caller instead of pre-recorded stuff. The coyotes have heard it all before and are just leery.
Going to try going out at dusk instead of two or three in the morning and try my luck that way.

 

[Cantona256]

Any successful coyote hunters out there your input is more than welcome. Talked to a local guy out here it's been hunting this area for a long time said these coyotes are pressured so much and everyone's using callers now he said you're better off using a mouth caller instead of pre-recorded stuff. The coyotes have heard it all before and are just leery.
Going to try going out at dusk instead of two or three in the morning and try my luck that way.

I use a Bluetooth speaker and a few prerecorded full sets from Predator University mixed in with a bunch of sounds I’ve picked along the way. Your situation is similar to mine. They are super highly pressured so some different sounds works. Woodpecker sounds work sometimes, I have a whole new set of an owl attacking various rodents… I also use an open read caller for a howl or too but mostly just to make a really dramatic rabbit distress. You might try a squeaker? Desert dogs eat a lot of mice I think.

The best thing you can do and I don’t do enough of this is drive around at night. Get to a spot you think might have coyotes and just put the caller out the window and play locator howls. If you hear anything that’s your sign. It’s still denning season for a few more weeks so their ranges aren’t huge yet… I’m still going coyote sounds and pup distress before I do any prey distress. The advantage I have in Utah is NV and in my county we can spot light. I do all my calling at night right now. They are not so much “dawn and dusk” this time a year. When it’s super hot I see them more from like 2am until just before sunrise. If the jackrabbits are out and about the coyotes will be too.

Once the weather cools I’m still gonna call still but mostly I’m gonna try out a pressure baiting scheme… freeze all your bloody critters and scrap in a 5 gallon bucket with water. I have a couple spots on BLM near my house where I’ll just dump the baitcicles… first week or two I’ll bait frequently and not hunt. After that I’ll continue to bait but shoot the ones I see… when it starts to get really cold I’ll bait less and maybe only once a week. From what I understand if you do it right they can get so desperate for the free meal they can be pretty reckless.

Good luck broski.

 

[ZekeZX10]

I use a Bluetooth speaker and a few prerecorded full sets from Predator University mixed in with a bunch of sounds I’ve picked along the way. Your situation is similar to mine. They are super highly pressured so some different sounds works. Woodpecker sounds work sometimes, I have a whole new set of an owl attacking various rodents… I also use an open read caller for a howl or too but mostly just to make a really dramatic rabbit distress. You might try a squeaker? Desert dogs eat a lot of mice I think.

The best thing you can do and I don’t do enough of this is drive around at night. Get to a spot you think might have coyotes and just put the caller out the window and play locator howls. If you hear anything that’s your sign. It’s still denning season for a few more weeks so their ranges aren’t huge yet… I’m still going coyote sounds and pup distress before I do any prey distress. The advantage I have in Utah is NV and in my county we can spot light. I do all my calling at night right now. They are not so much “dawn and dusk” this time a year. When it’s super hot I see them more from like 2am until just before sunrise. If the jackrabbits are out and about the coyotes will be too.

Once the weather cools I’m still gonna call still but mostly I’m gonna try out a pressure baiting scheme… freeze all your bloody critters and scrap in a 5 gallon bucket with water. I have a couple spots on BLM near my house where I’ll just dump the baitcicles… first week or two I’ll bait frequently and not hunt. After that I’ll continue to bait but shoot the ones I see… when it starts to get really cold I’ll bait less and maybe only once a week. From what I understand if you do it right they can get so desperate for the free meal they can be pretty reckless.

Good luck broski.

Nvgs would be great but yeah in Arizona can't hunt with them only red light. Another thing is you can't put out trail cams in Arizona either. I know they're out here but my timing is off. Every time I see him I have my Pulsar 177 with me. Now when I go out I always have the 30

 

[ZekeZX10]

I use a Bluetooth speaker and a few prerecorded full sets from Predator University mixed in with a bunch of sounds I’ve picked along the way. Your situation is similar to mine. They are super highly pressured so some different sounds works. Woodpecker sounds work sometimes, I have a whole new set of an owl attacking various rodents… I also use an open read caller for a howl or too but mostly just to make a really dramatic rabbit distress. You might try a squeaker? Desert dogs eat a lot of mice I think.

The best thing you can do and I don’t do enough of this is drive around at night. Get to a spot you think might have coyotes and just put the caller out the window and play locator howls. If you hear anything that’s your sign. It’s still denning season for a few more weeks so their ranges aren’t huge yet… I’m still going coyote sounds and pup distress before I do any prey distress. The advantage I have in Utah is NV and in my county we can spot light. I do all my calling at night right now. They are not so much “dawn and dusk” this time a year. When it’s super hot I see them more from like 2am until just before sunrise. If the jackrabbits are out and about the coyotes will be too.

Once the weather cools I’m still gonna call still but mostly I’m gonna try out a pressure baiting scheme… freeze all your bloody critters and scrap in a 5 gallon bucket with water. I have a couple spots on BLM near my house where I’ll just dump the baitcicles… first week or two I’ll bait frequently and not hunt. After that I’ll continue to bait but shoot the ones I see… when it starts to get really cold I’ll bait less and maybe only once a week. From what I understand if you do it right they can get so desperate for the free meal they can be pretty reckless.

Good luck broski.

It's free range out here in Arizona, cattle can go wherever the hell they want pretty much. These coyotes will follow a pregnant cow and wait until she's giving birth and move in. There's some in the tree line right now

 

[Cantona256]

It's free range out here in Arizona, cattle can go wherever the hell they want pretty much. These coyotes will follow a pregnant cow and wait until she's giving birth and move in. There's some in the tree line right now

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Yeah we have some of that too but not as much trees as you have in this pic. Up high we have a lot but spread out and down here the thickets are nasty AF to walk through but even my short (5’9”) self can see over it most of the time…. That landscape you’re showing me is interesting. I think the wind direction is gonna be especially important because your scent can sorta get trapped in the trees like that. Or so I hear? I’ve pretty much only had success sitting up on a hill/cliff overlooking open terrain and or around a bend in a wash. Learned that one from an old timer. I’m still not great at it but if you set up behind a bend in a wash or creek bed you can catch them coming around the corner.

Also how loud are you playing the calls? Sometimes less is more.

I’m no expert so I’m just trying to throw as many things as I can think of at you… I’ve had some luck calling them though so maybe at least I’ve got a little luck. I’m rooting for you though. I hate coyotes and I really wanna shoot some with an air rifle. I’m dying to see some scope cam of you dropping 140fpe worth of lead into them.

Oh yeah, another thing I’ve started to investigate is moon phase and barometric pressure. Trolling the coyote hunting message boards I’ve definitely seen some talk about it. Some recommend an app like Solunar, some say it’s nonsense and others just day “when there’s a lot of deer out I tend to catch more fish/see more coyote/see more critters… I’m testing an app like solunar to see if I get any results out of it.

 

[ZekeZX10]

Yeah we have some of that too but not as much trees as you have in this pic. Up high we have a lot but spread out and down here the thickets are nasty AF to walk through but even my short (5’9”) self can see over it most of the time…. That landscape you’re showing me is interesting. I think the wind direction is gonna be especially important because your scent can sorta get trapped in the trees like that. Or so I hear? I’ve pretty much only had success sitting up on a hill/cliff overlooking open terrain and or around a bend in a wash. Learned that one from an old timer. I’m still not great at it but if you set up behind a bend in a wash or creek bed you can catch them coming around the corner.

Also how loud are you playing the calls? Sometimes less is more.

I’m no expert so I’m just trying to throw as many things as I can think of at you… I’ve had some luck calling them though so maybe at least I’ve got a little luck. I’m rooting for you though. I hate coyotes and I really wanna shoot some with an air rifle. I’m dying to see some scope cam of you dropping 140fpe worth of lead into them.

Oh yeah, another thing I’ve started to investigate is moon phase and barometric pressure. Trolling the coyote hunting message boards I’ve definitely seen some talk about it. Some recommend an app like Solunar, some say it’s nonsense and others just day “when there’s a lot of deer out I tend to catch more fish/see more coyote/see more critters… I’m testing an app like solunar to see if I get any results out of it.

I do keep the wind in my favor, try to anyway, and start with the volume pretty low at first and turn up the volume every 2 or 3 min for 12min or so.