I have 177-22 & 25 cals I use heavy fishing line for the 177 & a crown saver pull thru for the 22s & 25s just wondering where some of you guys are buying them from & if your using powder burner patches also . Haven't seen anybody mentioned this but I'm curious , as far as the cleaners I know that part . Some times they just seem hard to pull thru . Thanks in advance Darell