I am going to start being particular from now on to try not to buy any Chinese Airgun products. I know it may be difficult especially when it comes to optics and cheaper airguns. What say you guys?
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I'm a big fan of several Chinese-made airguns, and have written several chapters about them; not at all the Communist Chinese party and system. I won't support that system any more.
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Been thinking about this lately, not so much airgun related but with tools. I’ve got a lot invested in a certain tool platform, hoping they move production.
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Been thinking about it for a while and always try to buy American but their recent behavior plus all the stuff they make, so I will try not buy their products. I guess their attempt to deceive the world about covid pushed me over. We are probably stuck with their optics.
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Most companies manufacture their components in China and then assemble them at their original destination.
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I been doing that for years (avoiding Chinese) whenever possible, on ALL products. My feelings are only stronger, now that the wet market running, bat wing eating people havew unleashed yet another zoonotic virus on the world and kept it a secret as long as possible. I hope the industrialized countries that exported all the pollution and jobs while breaking their arms patting themselves on the back about what they've done for the planet will wake up and start to distance themselves from China. I think if they do, it will, be slowly; they want to ease out so they don't lose all the money they've invested there. If companies would avoid locating to countries like that, not as many people would be going there and coming back and bringing new diseases with them. Can they learn from their greed? I don't know. The temptation of low labor costs is great. It's about the money. It's always about the money.
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You say you are going to try not to buy Chinese air gun products. What about other products such as electronics etc? I admire your effort here but I think it may be too little too late. At the present time I am more concerned with the automakers. I have been a Chevy man all my life and have owned Silverado trucks but the next one will not be a Chevy because the model I want is assembled in Mexico. I want to be clear that I have no problem with the Mexican folks building trucks. I do however have a problem with a US manufacturer taking US jobs to any country and paying the workers $20 a day and bringing the product back to the US and selling it for the same price that the US built trucks are sold for. Actually airguns for me are pretty simple. Crosman rifles and Leupold scopes. While this won't work for many it works for my skill level.
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China has never been our friend. They are building their military on all the products we buy from them. Google (china seas)
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I will be getting a Huben K1 .25 2020 a soon as the *People who make them make one available to me.
*People, just like you and I.
*People, just like you and I.
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this comes up at least ounce a week,problem with too many ,it is only a recent decision.I remember when I did the same thing with Japanese products,only to find out quality is quality no matter where it comes from.....so then why not boycott the Eguns from Russia?
I am going to be blunt,it is money and profit that runs the world,if there is no profit to be made China would never have become as "strong" ,another thing Chinese which pisses me off =USA universities training Chinese Nationals,giving "Them "an education paid by the communist government...looky here,we fook ourselves everyday in everyday because someone is making money by doing it.
Don't buy sounds good to me,but don't forget the truth,it really is for your satisfaction and values,big business does not give a damm about you.
I am going to be blunt,it is money and profit that runs the world,if there is no profit to be made China would never have become as "strong" ,another thing Chinese which pisses me off =USA universities training Chinese Nationals,giving "Them "an education paid by the communist government...looky here,we fook ourselves everyday in everyday because someone is making money by doing it.
Don't buy sounds good to me,but don't forget the truth,it really is for your satisfaction and values,big business does not give a damm about you.
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It was Japan. Then Korea and Vietnam. Now Mexico and China among all the other places that make products for the USA. We are now a service society, and the things we assemble/build here the parts are made somewhere else. Manufacturing has been dead in this country for years. Good luck buying true American products.
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There was a show about Chinese made goods in your house and the house became literally empty after they removed everything that were made in China. YO!
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I have been pulled in both directions for years. My first chinagun was a CP1. Then a compressor, more CP1's, P15, PP700, Bandit, PP800 and Discovery scopes. I was curious about their junk and had fun cutting my teeth on fabrication using those cheap guns as platforms. The problem is, in the airgun world, some guys will be out of the hobby because they cant afford expensive guns and scopes. Heck, some guys are waiting for stimulus checks just to buy a Hatsun and a china pump. Just not sure if there is an answer. They have the world over a barrel and its not a good place to be. Just because I can rid myself of china stuff and keep my FX, Edgun, Taipan, RTI and BSA doesn't mean everyone can, so therefore I am not the person to try to persuade guys to do so.
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I'm still thinking about buying the PP750 myself, there isn't another gun like it available and I really like pistols. I can't afford an Ataman ???
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If you get sick and need medicine made in only in China are you going to go without and die?
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Take a look at where you're currently at and I can guarantee you that at least one product in arms reach is made in China. It's sad but so true. As I type this on my Samsung Note 8, I'm pretty sure the plastic cellphone case is made in China if not the cellphone itself. Although in this hobby, I take pride in purchasing from the country of my choosing and not China. In regards to everything else, can we really afford to live without cheap Chinese crap?
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BlackICE makes a good point. What if you get COVID-19 and the only place that makes drugs to combat it is China, then what? Seriously. You can not avoid products made in China, you can try, but unless you live a simplistic life - with nothing - then you will buy something from them, that's just the way it is unfortunately.
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The problem can also be blamed on the fact that we all like to get the products we use for the lowest price possible. That is common sense as well as human nature. When China got into the mix, they were able to produce our products, be it by stealing our technology or contracting with our corporations to make the product.
How many years passed by before the general public even suspected that our big brand names passed their goods on to us that were once made here, but no more.
The government and big business is a large part of the problem, but we also have ourselves to blame and I am as guilt as the rest by not being vigilent in looking at the country of origin when I pick something up and even buying it if I can find a "made in America" label on an equal product.
The sad part is that in a short time, people will forget, even those that are trying to do something about the Chinese manufacturing situation and go right back to their standard purchasing practices. Big business and the government will do the same.
How many years passed by before the general public even suspected that our big brand names passed their goods on to us that were once made here, but no more.
The government and big business is a large part of the problem, but we also have ourselves to blame and I am as guilt as the rest by not being vigilent in looking at the country of origin when I pick something up and even buying it if I can find a "made in America" label on an equal product.
The sad part is that in a short time, people will forget, even those that are trying to do something about the Chinese manufacturing situation and go right back to their standard purchasing practices. Big business and the government will do the same.
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We are not getting it much cheaper. The companies are getting it cheaper, and we are pretty much still paying the price for garbage, but since they are all doing it, we have little choice or there is nothing to buy. The truth is, the only ones benefiting are the companies. They buy it cheaper, but pass little of the cost savings on to the consumer.
...and yes we are to blame. Anyone who directly or indirectly has stock in a company seeking a higher and higher return for its investors is to blame I took all my $$ out of the stock market and paid off my house in 1997, and never went back to the stock market, and it was the best thing I ever did.
...and yes we are to blame. Anyone who directly or indirectly has stock in a company seeking a higher and higher return for its investors is to blame I took all my $$ out of the stock market and paid off my house in 1997, and never went back to the stock market, and it was the best thing I ever did.
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