Howdey folks thanks for all your help in the past. I am currently looking for a springer or gas ram rifle that has these requirements. #1 and most importantly it must be quiet. I mean quiet as hell. I will be ising this primarily for backyard plinking and my niegbors are jerks. #2 must be 22 cal because 25 magnum springers are too loud and expensive to shoot. #3 needs to be under 200 bucks. So I dont need a magnum springer but 12fpe or above please. I will hunt rabbit occasionally and accuracy means more than power to me. Pyramid air reccomended crosman valiant for about 170 bucks and it comes with a target of some kind i think. What else would be good. Thanks guys you rock.