I ordered a Discovery Optics scope out of curiosity and all the positive vibes on here. Charlie at Airgun Optics Plus emailed me that night with a thank you for the order. There was a delay out of his control but he promptly answered my messages with updates and was sincere. He suggested alternate possibilities or a refund should I ask. Yesterday he told me the date the scope I wanted will be in his warehouse. I wasn't wondering if I was getting a run-around. He is a good businessman.