I didnt want to crash anyone elses thread. I am Not a springer or GP fan. If i were, i would pick an under barrel lever cocker. No sag. Cleaner operation. Am i off.
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I have have one break barrel, a 34 and three side levers. A 48 and two 300’s, one of the 300’s has its peep sights, the other three rifles have scopes and all required a droop compensating mount. So break barrels aren’t the only design that suffer from barrel droop.
Springers are the only way for me to go, I like their classic looks. No Star Wars looking rifles for me, ever. lol
Springers are the only way for me to go, I like their classic looks. No Star Wars looking rifles for me, ever. lol
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You gotta love Springer's. Love all of mine.
FWB 124d, FWB 300s, Beeman r9 special edition .177 and a Rws 54 .22. They are all very accurate but the king just amaze me with jsb 18.1 @ 22 fpe out to 100 yds. For simplicity and fun , grab any one of them, a tin of pellets and blast away. No pumps, tanks or refill to contend with. Yes, pcp's are in stable. A Cricket compact .22 tuned by Ernest and a sweet shooting cz 200 .177 but the Springer's get the most action.
FWB 124d, FWB 300s, Beeman r9 special edition .177 and a Rws 54 .22. They are all very accurate but the king just amaze me with jsb 18.1 @ 22 fpe out to 100 yds. For simplicity and fun , grab any one of them, a tin of pellets and blast away. No pumps, tanks or refill to contend with. Yes, pcp's are in stable. A Cricket compact .22 tuned by Ernest and a sweet shooting cz 200 .177 but the Springer's get the most action.
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Keyman,
You aren't too far off. There is a reason why side lever, or under lever air rifles are popular. I do have some cheap break barrels which shoot rather well, but then, I realize a measure of luck comes into play on the day of purchase. There are solid reasons why RWS 4X and 5X series air rifles, as well as the TX200 series remains sought after by many springer shooters. Most people's exposure to break barrel rifles come into play when they first start this hobby. If they stay in it, they invariably end up getting something a bit more higher end.
You aren't too far off. There is a reason why side lever, or under lever air rifles are popular. I do have some cheap break barrels which shoot rather well, but then, I realize a measure of luck comes into play on the day of purchase. There are solid reasons why RWS 4X and 5X series air rifles, as well as the TX200 series remains sought after by many springer shooters. Most people's exposure to break barrel rifles come into play when they first start this hobby. If they stay in it, they invariably end up getting something a bit more higher end.
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I have several of each. Seems like all, including my pcp's require some elevation assist unless the scope has a lot of range. There are tradeoffs between breakers and fixed but both can be quite good. Just have to decide what is most important. I've had a fwb124 for 40 years and put many thousands of rounds through it. Delightful to shoot. Lighter, easier to cock, easier to load, and just as accurate as my TX and Lgu. Shooting in competition, however, I would choose one of the fixed because they DO weigh more and have finer triggers as well. Stability is similar on all. I also have an R1.... doesn't get shot much. Not as pleasant.
Sooo..... anyway... It's just about preferences.
Bob
Sooo..... anyway... It's just about preferences.
Bob
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A disadvantage of an under lever or side lever is the added weight. I have a Diana 34 break barrel and with the scope and associated mounts, the gun weighs in at 9.5 pounds. I wouldn't want to go any heavier than that. Also, I use a pellet pen for carrying and loading my pellets which works great with the open breech of a break barrel. And it's not just some break barrels that suffer from barrel droop. Not a big deal, easily compensated for.
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Keyman62421, Been shooting Springers on and off for almost 40 years. I've been away now for 15 years but just picked up a new TX200 MKIII a few months ago. I must say I have no desire for a PCP when a springer shoots this good for this amount of money. I love the side levers for bench rest shooting. The Break barrel's lower weight and ease of loading sure is nice for hunting. But if you want to shoot competitive FT or HFT the under-lever is the way to go. With my TX 200 I'm shooting JSB Exact 8.44 gn 4.52mm head at 950 fps! On a good day I can group around 1 inch at 55 yards from shooting sticks HFT style. The only limitation I have is not the gun.
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I owned a fixed barrel .177 HW77k and a break barrel .177 Beeman R9 at the same time and I found that the fixed barrel HW77k required too much "arm waving" when loading and shooting, especially for squirrel hunting. The break barrel was simpler to cock, load and shoot. With the R9 there was no need to put my "loading fingers" into a "bear trap" and blindly fish a pellet into the barrel leade like I had to do with the HW77k.
For some field target matches (one national and a couple state matches) I used the heavier HW77k because it was easier to shoot accurately due to the extra weight. LOL, I even took 4th place at the 2010 national field target match which was the first year the hunter class was added. Out of 17 hunter class entries, all but 5 were PCP shooters (the first year hunter class was a combination PCP & piston class) and I took 4th place with my springer........
For some field target matches (one national and a couple state matches) I used the heavier HW77k because it was easier to shoot accurately due to the extra weight. LOL, I even took 4th place at the 2010 national field target match which was the first year the hunter class was added. Out of 17 hunter class entries, all but 5 were PCP shooters (the first year hunter class was a combination PCP & piston class) and I took 4th place with my springer........
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The fixed barbell TX200 has the best reputation in Field Target. I also own a gold plated HW77 and it is like Ford and Chevy. They both are the best of the best.
For breakbarrels, go to Hard Air Magazine and view the new !made in America, SigSauer ASP gas ram rifle. It has a unique lockup and promises to be as good as fixed barrel. Low cocking effort for a gas ram too. Sadly,the trigger is 2 1/2 pounds.
Airgun Depot has a real good video of it too.
For breakbarrels, go to Hard Air Magazine and view the new !made in America, SigSauer ASP gas ram rifle. It has a unique lockup and promises to be as good as fixed barrel. Low cocking effort for a gas ram too. Sadly,the trigger is 2 1/2 pounds.
Airgun Depot has a real good video of it too.
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The most accurate springer rifles that I have shot which could rival PCPs are the Walther LGV Competition Ultra in 177, RWS 54 in 177 and 22, FWB 300s, Diana 75T01, HW77, HW77K, HW97K, and last but not least the R7. This is based on not being hold nor bag rest sensitive at all. A lot of other popular guns I shot are not worth mentioning based on my shooting criteria.
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