According to Daystate catalog the Blackwolf can generate more power with the 23" barrel than with 28" barrel in .177cal. But in other calibers its opposit.
Strange..??
Strange..??
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Daystate Blackwolf owners discussion
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Update on my high end daystate experience. A few days after sending to AOA to examine the out of spec rear rails, I received a call from the service manager confirming my measurements. He also tried 4 different rings and none of them would fit the rear rails. He then told me that the gun would go back to Daystate and that a new replacement would be sent. So far so good.
Yesterday I received the replacement from AOA. Opened the box and strangely the stock was not attached to the rifle. No big deal I thought and started assembling the rifle. Almost immediately I noticed that the stock was cracked. Not very happy at this point so I called AOA and once again, they were great and issued a return. Given that this is the second problem on a brand new Daystate I requested a full refund. When I questioned why a brand new rifle would be shipped unassembled the rep told me that they have had problems exactly at the same location as mine and that the hope was that shipping the stock loose from the rifle was done to avoid similar cracks.
None of this is acceptable to me on such a high end airgun and therefore I requested a refund and I am at least for the time being done with Daystate.
Sure hope that my experience is an outlier and that everyone else is happy with the quality of the product they received. Maybe one day I will finally own a beautiful Daystate but not from what I have experienced on my first purchase attempt. Again, thanks to AOA for being responsive and for the quick communications. Not AOA's fault that the stock is cracked, the package arrived with almost no visible damage and as usual was well packaged by AOA.
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This sucks.... typically when airguns are shipped (the box is long) and that long box gets crap thrown on top of it, i had one Redwolf show up with a bent box, and sure enough the carrier even cracked the shroud at the receiver end. I have fussed at AOA and other carriers for cheaping out on shipping methods (meaning the way things are packed) They will make it right. and the BW is a great platform.... sorry your dealing with gorillas in the shipping industry.
my take is the longer the barrel is, the greater the chance for them to bend the box.
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Sorry all that happen to you, my stock came in a different box by itself. I got something from AOA today had some liquid all over the box. Driver said check it out if there’s anything wrong let him know. Fortunately, it was double box and everything looks good. It was a Venom booster kit for my Mardox 22 I Have several daystate and I have enjoyed all of them, 6 of them I have bought used, the Black Wolf I bought new.
I have had to send 2 back to get rebuilt they are 7 to 8 year old, I am getting the second one back tomorrow from the shop.
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I've been following the Skout Evo/Epoch thread, as the Evo was the gun I was considering vs the Blackwolf. That thread is really making me appreciate my Blackwolf! When those guns work, they seem amazing, but when they need maintenance they seem pretty complex.
I really appreciate the intentional simplicity of the Blackwolf design, for maintenance and reliability. I'm super happy with my purchase decision, even considering the premium cost.
I really appreciate the intentional simplicity of the Blackwolf design, for maintenance and reliability. I'm super happy with my purchase decision, even considering the premium cost.
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I decompressed the BW here the other day to start over and worked my way up powerwise using the regulator. My goal was a 20grain slug .177cal aprox 1000 ft/sec with just enough pressure. I stopped at the 145Bar mark and powerwheel at max. 1003 ft/sec and with lowest setting it did 887 ft/sec. I must express how easy this gun is to poweradjust. It seemed to be the sweetspot.
Once I start rangetesting I must see how the barreltension system works. It just might squeeze the groups together.
All in all I am still very excited with this BW. It lives up to all my expectations to far.
Once I start rangetesting I must see how the barreltension system works. It just might squeeze the groups together.
All in all I am still very excited with this BW. It lives up to all my expectations to far.
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I am convinced if a .177cal barrel with 1:9.5" twist ratio was installed this gun could shoot 30grain spitzer slugs easely. With a regulatorsetting up to 180bar and a soft hammerspring. It would not surprise me it would do +60 ft/ibs one day in future upgrades. Cokecans @ +300meters...why not?..
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Seems like the overall consensus is that Daystate has good quality. I wonder if the grey stock which I think is laminated is more prone to cracking than the other stocks. Would love to hear if anybody else had a cracked stock and if so what type. Still hope to someday own a Daystate air rifle but at this point I just do not trust the quality of the stock and given my prior experience with the out of spec rear rail. I know that delivery is hard in the US but in decades of shooting rifles I have never had a cracked stock when shipped reasonably packaged as mine was. To me this is a design flaw.
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Maybe get the one with laminate or walnut stock, those comes with a hard case which the gun ships in.
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Interesting, I received both the gun and laminate stock in the daystate hardcase. Isn't that the whole point with a hardcase is to prevent damage?
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That is the way they sent it to me, the laminate stocks on the red wolf was hollow to hold the battery, that is where they used to break, the faom in my hard case was damaged during shipping
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The problem with the stocks as i see it is the safety. Not enough wood around there for rough handling.
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Here is a red wolf Rosso with a broken stock, I have two Rosso and I am nervous when I take them out to shoot and even more then I let someone shoot them, so far they shoot better then my BW, but I am hoping to change that, I have a 30 cal and 25 standard power 25 cal
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20grain Zan 68meters. 45/ft/ibs. Field condition. Could might do even better if benchrested.
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22grain Zan solid. 68meters. 1 flyer. otherwise a good group. All in all I am pleased with this BW. It delivers the performance. These shotstrings here are still among the first I've shot. So many ways to tune this rig for even better results.
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wow, that is a big break! I am very gentle on my guns but that kind of fragile design is just not for me. I am also more of a hunter than benchers shooter and no matter how careful a rifle can fall over. I has to have enough design margin not to cause this kind of catastrophic break. Maybe the next Daystate model will address this and then I can maybe finally own one.
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