Daystate Blackwolf owners discussion

According to Daystate catalog the Blackwolf can generate more power with the 23" barrel than with 28" barrel in .177cal. But in other calibers its opposit.
Strange..??

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Thanks. It sure looks like mine is just defective from factory. I sent It to AOA today.
Update on my high end daystate experience. A few days after sending to AOA to examine the out of spec rear rails, I received a call from the service manager confirming my measurements. He also tried 4 different rings and none of them would fit the rear rails. He then told me that the gun would go back to Daystate and that a new replacement would be sent. So far so good.

Yesterday I received the replacement from AOA. Opened the box and strangely the stock was not attached to the rifle. No big deal I thought and started assembling the rifle. Almost immediately I noticed that the stock was cracked. Not very happy at this point so I called AOA and once again, they were great and issued a return. Given that this is the second problem on a brand new Daystate I requested a full refund. When I questioned why a brand new rifle would be shipped unassembled the rep told me that they have had problems exactly at the same location as mine and that the hope was that shipping the stock loose from the rifle was done to avoid similar cracks.

None of this is acceptable to me on such a high end airgun and therefore I requested a refund and I am at least for the time being done with Daystate.

Sure hope that my experience is an outlier and that everyone else is happy with the quality of the product they received. Maybe one day I will finally own a beautiful Daystate but not from what I have experienced on my first purchase attempt. Again, thanks to AOA for being responsive and for the quick communications. Not AOA's fault that the stock is cracked, the package arrived with almost no visible damage and as usual was well packaged by AOA.

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Update on my high end daystate experience. A few days after sending to AOA to examine the out of spec rear rails, I received a call from the service manager confirming my measurements. He also tried 4 different rings and none of them would fit the rear rails. He then told me that the gun would go back to Daystate and that a new replacement would be sent. So far so good.

Yesterday I received the replacement from AOA. Opened the box and strangely the stock was not attached to the rifle. No big deal I thought and started assembling the rifle. Almost immediately I noticed that the stock was cracked. Not very happy at this point so I called AOA and once again, they were great and issued a return. Given that this is the second problem on a brand new Daystate I requested a full refund. When I questioned why a brand new rifle would be shipped unassembled the rep told me that they have had problems exactly at the same location as mine and that the hope was that shipping the stock loose from the rifle was done to avoid similar cracks.

None of this is acceptable to me on such a high end airgun and therefore I requested a refund and I am at least for the time being done with Daystate.

Sure hope that my experience is an outlier and that everyone else is happy with the quality of the product they received. Maybe one day I will finally own a beautiful Daystate but not from what I have experienced on my first purchase attempt. Again, thanks to AOA for being responsive and for the quick communications. Not AOA's fault that the stock is cracked, the package arrived with almost no visible damage and as usual was well packaged by AOA.

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This sucks.... typically when airguns are shipped (the box is long) and that long box gets crap thrown on top of it, i had one Redwolf show up with a bent box, and sure enough the carrier even cracked the shroud at the receiver end. I have fussed at AOA and other carriers for cheaping out on shipping methods (meaning the way things are packed) They will make it right. and the BW is a great platform.... sorry your dealing with gorillas in the shipping industry.
my take is the longer the barrel is, the greater the chance for them to bend the box.
 
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Update on my high end daystate experience. A few days after sending to AOA to examine the out of spec rear rails, I received a call from the service manager confirming my measurements. He also tried 4 different rings and none of them would fit the rear rails. He then told me that the gun would go back to Daystate and that a new replacement would be sent. So far so good.

Yesterday I received the replacement from AOA. Opened the box and strangely the stock was not attached to the rifle. No big deal I thought and started assembling the rifle. Almost immediately I noticed that the stock was cracked. Not very happy at this point so I called AOA and once again, they were great and issued a return. Given that this is the second problem on a brand new Daystate I requested a full refund. When I questioned why a brand new rifle would be shipped unassembled the rep told me that they have had problems exactly at the same location as mine and that the hope was that shipping the stock loose from the rifle was done to avoid similar cracks.

None of this is acceptable to me on such a high end airgun and therefore I requested a refund and I am at least for the time being done with Daystate.

Sure hope that my experience is an outlier and that everyone else is happy with the quality of the product they received. Maybe one day I will finally own a beautiful Daystate but not from what I have experienced on my first purchase attempt. Again, thanks to AOA for being responsive and for the quick communications. Not AOA's fault that the stock is cracked, the package arrived with almost no visible damage and as usual was well packaged by AOA.

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Sorry all that happen to you, my stock came in a different box by itself. I got something from AOA today had some liquid all over the box. Driver said check it out if there’s anything wrong let him know. Fortunately, it was double box and everything looks good. It was a Venom booster kit for my Mardox 22 I Have several daystate and I have enjoyed all of them, 6 of them I have bought used, the Black Wolf I bought new.
I have had to send 2 back to get rebuilt they are 7 to 8 year old, I am getting the second one back tomorrow from the shop.

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I've been following the Skout Evo/Epoch thread, as the Evo was the gun I was considering vs the Blackwolf. That thread is really making me appreciate my Blackwolf! When those guns work, they seem amazing, but when they need maintenance they seem pretty complex.

I really appreciate the intentional simplicity of the Blackwolf design, for maintenance and reliability. I'm super happy with my purchase decision, even considering the premium cost.