Bit confused about a pcp under $500

[bowtieguy66]

Hi, 

been searching and lurking. Looking for a pcp for around $500. I have all the other stuff needed, pump, scope, etc.

I was looking at a Kral, but from topics, it’s the not able to get parts, even with Crosman and their Kral guns. 

So i was thinking the Marauder, read a few topics about others here, spent boo koo $ on their m-rods, only to find that their stock Gamo Urban shoots better, half the cost, and lighter.

Another chimes in about the Air Venturi Avenger, 100% Chinese and plastic, and is awesome. But i dont see how its different from the others parts wise.

And this is where the confusion sets in for me. The Avenger is all the things I’m looking for ish. 

I’m looking for forward side lever, synthetic just cause it’s lighter to carry. 177 or 22 caliber. Carbine or pup, something short, not Gauntlet length. Shrouded and quite not needing ldc. And preferably under 7 lbs.

thank you for scratching your head brainstorming.

 

[rsfrid]

I'd recommend the wood stock Avenger. It's more solid, traditional looking and can be tuned to be very accurate.

 

[napairgunner]

That price range is not where the manufacturers are going to provide a lot of extra after market parts most of them don't want you to working on the rifles yourself anyway. That price range is really in the "starter" area for PCP so you get what you get but you can still get a lot but parts availability should not be a huge factor in your decision in that price range.

 

[Guest]

Who says that there's no Kral parts available,...that has been debunked already

 

[bowtieguy66]

Thats what i like about the Marauder, is the ton of support, and aftermarket parts, etc. And thats what i dont like about the others, spending $, and not being able to repair or get parts for. The higher price guns are the same if there’s no support in the US. Right?

 

[bowtieguy66]

Who says that there's no Kral parts available,...that has been debunked already

Really? That will open up some doors for me, thanks! Where would you get parts?

 

[Guest]

Look at the NP3 ......5.75 # 400 bucks

 

[bowtieguy66]

Thanks, I was looking either at the Benjamin Cayden, or the Kral empire X. Guess I will way out whether i want a bullpup, or a rifle. I like the new Mega 2 also.

Thanks

 

[kaylaindy]

The Avenger is available in wood and is the best choice because it has the accuracy of a $1500 gun. Plain and simple...NO other gun under $1000 can compete with the Avenger. Any other choice would be insane. 

75 yards group here: (link starts at 75 yard mark)

https://youtu.be/UesMRcRowcU?t=1652

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2nd choice, the regulated Walther RM8 ...shoots almost as good. 

https://youtu.be/Z2SUNpdUOK8

 

[beerthief]

what does anyone think about this ? i have no personal experience , just read a review

AEA HP SS SEMI-AUTO AIR PISTOL .22, .25 AND .30 CALIBER WITH TAKEDOWN FOLDING STOCK

• Regular price$499.00

 

[bowtieguy66]

The Avenger is available in wood and is the best choice because it has the accuracy of a $1500 gun. Plain and simple...NO other gun under $1000 can compete with the Avenger. Any other choice would be insane. 

75 yards group here: (link starts at 75 yard mark)







https://youtu.be/UesMRcRowcU?t=1652

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2nd choice, the regulated Walther RM8 ...shoots almost as good. 







https://youtu.be/Z2SUNpdUOK8

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But if something fails, where would i get replacement parts for it? Where is the best price for the Rotex? Thanks

 

[BrickTop]

Who says that there's no Kral parts available,...that has been debunked already

Really? That will open up some doors for me, thanks! Where would you get parts?

One nitwit said they don't have parts avaliable and he was quickly proven wrong.

Go to Pyramid Air's website and type in Kral then click accessories.. They seem to have plenty parts available. This is copied from Pyramid's website. 

Kral also sells a complete line of accessories for their air rifles and pellet guns, including parts, stocks & grips, mags, clips, speedloaders and pellet holders. Your Pyramyd Air specialist can help you choose the Kral Arms airgun that's right for you!

 

[bowtieguy66]

Nitwit lol, 

yea i did at Pyramyd, and theres others, thanks

 

[Raden1942]

I don't have an avenger but I do know several people that do. Most are happy with it and say its really accurate. One guy had a lemon but got it sorted out. I do not believe that it is quiet tho. The shroud is not really that effective. The marauder has an excellent shroud and is very quiet in 177. Probably in 22 as well but I can't verify because I only have the 177. I love the aftermarket support for it and would recommend it over the avenger if you plan on getting into mods and tinkering or you are concerned about noise. The avenger does have an aftermarket thread adapter for putting on an LDC and you can get a 3d printed plastic LDC for less than 30 bucks at airgun universe.com and it weighs next to nothing. good luck and welcome to the dark side.

 

[davecole]

Based on my personal experience, the marauder has a superior trigger to others mentioned here. 

 

[bowtieguy66]

Has anyone bought directly from Kral, there website lists guns that I never knew existed, and their not for sale in the US, or at the Krale sight. ??? 


Thanks

 

[CyberDyneSystems]

Avenger is great bang for buck and ahead of some of others listed partly due it's being regulated.

The newer gen Krals have really good triggers, as do the Benjamin/Crosman "Craftsman" line (Cayden, Kratos and Akela) I'll take their triggers over my Marauder. They are quite different triggers though so i can see how someone might prefer one over the other.



Someone posted in the last few weeks about getting a Kral Puncher (Monarch or Empire?) bullpup direct from Kral.

 

[qball]

Who says that there's no Kral parts available,...that has been debunked already

Really? That will open up some doors for me, thanks! Where would you get parts?

One nitwit said they don't have parts avaliable and he was quickly proven wrong.

Go to Pyramid Air's website and type in Kral then click accessories.. They seem to have plenty parts available. This is copied from Pyramid's website. 

Kral also sells a complete line of accessories for their air rifles and pellet guns, including parts, stocks & grips, mags, clips, speedloaders and pellet holders. Your Pyramyd Air specialist can help you choose the Kral Arms airgun that's right for you!

Glad to see mature name calling here. So if there is an issue with a Krale gun you have to buy parts to fix it? Hope one day they setup factory support center like crosman so they can address any issues people who buy their guns would have. My policy is no factory support then no business from me. 


ever wonder about why they won’t have a US service center? 

 

[bowtieguy66]

Yea they did say that they got it from Kral, but I can’t find anywhere on their site where you would add to cart.

more that i look at the Avenger youtubes, the more I’m! Scratching my head 

 

[qball]

Separate note on Turkey guns, Turkey’s Money has dropped 50% in valve……why their guns aren’t any cheaper in US dollars like it should be.