Question for you Joe. Are the mil-dots on those Hawke scopes accurate? I shoot a 4x Hawke and I love it dearly but the mil dots were likely made for a 10x scope. So they are roughly 2.5 mil dots. But even then they don't really work right. They are just dots. Pretty much useless. But I love every other thing about the scope. Focus, hold up to recoil, clarity etc. Are very good.