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Best of the oilless cheapy compressors?
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An offensive question to someone who is in manufacturing in the USA. Thank you for asking it. Got me to think about which projects I take and where my competitive advantages lie.
To answer your question the USA compete in products that must be safe. When the consumer doesn't understand the danger American companies lose some of their competitve advantage. In general American manufacturing companies compete based on good design and manufacturing automation. When we can minimize the labor we can compete. The design is important because warranty labor is a killer and product liability is forever.
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And why they move to china as fast as they can or 90% is imported components .. to put made in usa on somthing means only like up to 10% is handled here.. like take ot out of a bulk sealand container sort ot all out stick in a box with made in usa on it sell it to you .. dont kid yourself buddy.
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That is what I am talking about American Companys send everything to China to make a buck
now almost everything is made in China and now they can charge what they want because
America can not compete with what they set up China with .
now almost everything is made in China and now they can charge what they want because
America can not compete with what they set up China with .
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I been wondering if the op tried to make a order on that spa stuff to stock hos shop with items from them? Especially the guns no one else seems to sell in the usa.. like them pistols pp800"r" pp750 or m16/ outlaw , some good looking stuff to grab or just somthing/ anything not the run of the mill air venturi copy and paste you see in every shop in the USA ovet and over and over priced the same no competitive pricing ... Maybe a shop with a choice..lol
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There certainly are many companies world wide that have moved manufacturing operations to foreign countries. There is a history of reasons beyond implied greed for this...not for this forum IMO.
Specifically for PCP compressors, the reason the USA manufactured systems are far more expensive spans a wide variety not the least of which is liability. The lions share of the market is sub $1k. There will be Zero manufactured USA products in this arena; liability far exceeds projected margin. The gun is the same to a degree. Why is this...again not for this forum, short answer is consumerism trends over the last 50 years.
What I object to and find disturbing is the trend for Brand Naming or other weasel tactics not employed giving users an impression that a US company or entity had their hands in the Exclusive design they are offering. This is Twaddle..they bear ZERO liability for use, quality, warranty etc....and Specifically have their company held Harmless in the event of any Injury, death, loss of income, and finally your being passed they can't or won't fix it or treat you however they choose...spend more get more but you must pump my sunshine to all
. I'm off my horse. I worked in China and many other countries...there is more to it than USA manufacturers being greedy...just ask GM.
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Thank you. I do want to clarify the lack of liability. The companies private labeling Chinese compressors may be able to escape warranty claims liability but the product liability in case of injury will nail them between the eyes. I had to fight a product liability lawsuit for a Chinese knockoff of one of my customer's products. The Plaintiff's attorney simply said pay us because it will cost you more to prove in court that the defective item is a "clone" rather than your product. Now sellers on Amazon/Ebay/Craigslist can be fly by night People/companies will simply fold up and disappear in case of product liability. Pyramidair/AOA/AirVenturi will have to fight/fund the lawsuit in order to stay in business. If they have a Zero liability agreement then they will have to try to collect from their supplier. I'm sure they have proper product liability insurance because they do want to stay in business (which by the way is part of the markup on the rebranded Tuxings). This is also something to consider when buying any high pressure device - If you buy from a legitimate US vendor there is someone to sue, if you buy on AliExpress there is no one to sue and you could be buying a cheap knockoff of an already cheap chinese product or worse yet a "second" of item that didn't pass inspection. We destroy anything that doesn't pass inspection, in other places they sell it at a discount regardless of any safety issues (all material and labor were invested it's painful to add destruction labor and throw it in the trash).There certainly are many companies world wide that have moved manufacturing operations to foreign countries. There is a history of reasons beyond implied greed for this...not for this forum IMO.
Specifically for PCP compressors, the reason the USA manufactured systems are far more expensive spans a wide variety not the least of which is liability. The lions share of the market is sub $1k. There will be Zero manufactured USA products in this arena; liability far exceeds projected margin. The gun is the same to a degree. Why is this...again not for this forum, short answer is consumerism trends over the last 50 years.
What I object to and find disturbing is the trend for Brand Naming or other weasel tactics not employed giving users an impression that a US company or entity had their hands in the Exclusive design they are offering. This is Twaddle..they bear ZERO liability for use, quality, warranty etc....and Specifically have their company held Harmless in the event of any Injury, death, loss of income, and finally your being passed they can't or won't fix it or treat you however they choose...spend more get more but you must pump my sunshine to all
I'm off my horse. I worked in China and many other countries...there is more to it than USA manufacturers being greedy...just ask GM.
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I think to buy a $4k compressor and fill their tanks free for 6 months , provide a list of where to buy a tank set up . or deal with this guy . http://www.airtanksforsale.com/ or maybe rent to buy a tank system ?
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Guilty or not it's easy to get an attorney for representation. The Rebranded suppliers no doubt carry significant liability insurance and in each and every case there is a Hold Harmless clause protecting them but what in reality it does is try to limit their ability...and judgement. People who use product improperly and cause harm should not be rewarded but reality does not enter here and judgements are made against Hold Harmless suppliers of foreign goods and yes that added cost is reflected in the product price. What the specific PCP foreign compressor manufacturers will bear is ZERO. They will get renamed under a new company and yet again establish USA suppliers with signed agreements that are in effect worthless to a consumer. But the Unscrupulous supplier ( and not all are) will set out to sell his foreign product with exclusivity in territory thereby handcuffing any customer to them for the duration of their contract and treat them as they see fit. Tuxing for example brand names for many suppliers...they will openly advise you of this if asked...in their manufacturing environment a running change in production to add this gage or that switch etc...is no big deal and allows for their happy USA vendors to Showoff Their new design and when pushed advise it's made exclusively for them...they won't say by who. Eyes wide open we as consumers should be respected enough to be given full disclosure of manufacturer so we can set out to make informed choices.
If I was to have a private labeled product like a PCP compressor, I would make sure over and above good counsel that I reside in a jurisdiction that is clearly demonstrated their bias toward companies like mine. Sometimes the ego of some suppliers gets in the way of conducting proper business practices.
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What is the name of the ebay seller? I see many similar units but none actually branded Yong Heng.
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Dorcula
I don't know if this is the one referenced in the post, but I ran across this one on eBay:
CREWORKS 12V PCP Air Compressor 30Mpa/4500Psi Auto-Stop High Pressure Air Rifle | eBay
1 x Air Hose with Filter & Quick Coupler. 1 x Air Compressor. Automatic Stop. Temperature Display. Working Pressure. Pressure Gauge Range. Net Weight. 1 x Spare Piston Spring.
www.ebay.com
-PJ
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Out of country right now. 239 free shipping on ebay. 265 on amazon. From memory. No returns on ebay.
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Yes thats the one. Clicked link and it said I purchased it.Dorcula
I don't know if this is the one referenced in the post, but I ran across this one on eBay:
CREWORKS 12V PCP Air Compressor 30Mpa/4500Psi Auto-Stop High Pressure Air Rifle | eBay
1 x Air Hose with Filter & Quick Coupler. 1 x Air Compressor. Automatic Stop. Temperature Display. Working Pressure. Pressure Gauge Range. Net Weight. 1 x Spare Piston Spring.www.ebay.com
-PJ
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I would like to say I really know nothing of the innards of these compressors so I have no clue what I’m talking about. However, common thinking to me would suggest that all these Chinese compressors don’t stay cheap because they are manufactured in many different places and ways. I’m guessing they stay cheap not only because they are made in China but they are all made incredibly similar using many same parts. IE it’s six of one half doz of another. They are all a crap shoot.
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One other thing to keep in mind filling customer’s tanks is they need to come back in the store for a refill. Once in the store, the likelihood of them buying something else is extremely high. It’s also highly likely they’ll bring a friend at some point and then you’ll have the potential for another new customer. It’s my experience that getting someone to come to your store is the hardest part so the more reasons you give for your customers to come back, the better.
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I highly recommend the Tuxing official store on AliExpress. Been selling over 6 years, highly rated, great support, US warehouse & will deal on bulk orders. I am pretty sure they build the compressors for Air Venturi & others. They have the full 12v line that is identical to the Nomads (more options) & the bigger 2 cylinder line as well for less than 1/2 the price. Also a single cylinder line that looks better designed than the Yong Hengs.
Did a bunch of research on their brand & support before I picked up a TXET061-1 (Nomad without auto pressure shutoff) & molecular sieve filter for just over 2 bills.
Worth checking out, especially for resale purposes...
Did a bunch of research on their brand & support before I picked up a TXET061-1 (Nomad without auto pressure shutoff) & molecular sieve filter for just over 2 bills.
Worth checking out, especially for resale purposes...
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