Good morning everyone. Just joined this morning. I have always been into air rifles since I was little. First one ever was daisy red. I have a break barrel now that I just don’t enjoy shooting. To much recoil to keep good groups. .22 cal gamo raptor whisper. So would like to enter the pcp world and what is the best entry point? I love the look of the flash pups but are they worth it? Have heard people have problems shooting from the shoulder. Also would like it to be something won’t have a problem hand pumping as the compressors are just way out of budget.
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You could look at a Daystate or Air Arms rifle. They make high quality dependable rifles that aren't flashy, but solid performers. What you buy will depend on your budget.
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id go for a marauder pistol and a hand pump .. its a keeper even when you move on to other things, it will still be the gun to grab for that quick shot on a pest around the house .. urban is ok to imo, more replaceable than the prod though ...
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Gamo Urban, it's a BSA Buccaneer in disguise, and it's made in England. Using an Hill MK3 hand pump it was exactly 71 pumps to 232 bar from ~150 bar. Wonderful little rifle for the money and exceptionally accurarte with Crosman CPD/CPH. Cut the barrel band off and let the hammer-forged barrel float; it avoids POI issues.
I think you'll be very happy with the Gamo Urban and if you evolve into the higher priced model PCPs you'll still find the Urban quite useful and a good fun even when greeted by the more expensive PCPs.
I think you'll be very happy with the Gamo Urban and if you evolve into the higher priced model PCPs you'll still find the Urban quite useful and a good fun even when greeted by the more expensive PCPs.
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OPINIONS ...Heck yea hard to beat the Gamo Urban=small, light,BSA barrel ,easy to pump,can change the bolt from left side to wrong side.....oh yea, and can get it for around $300.
Or get a Marauder Pistol=Prod.....accurate and fun....also bolt handle can be changed....
Or get a Marauder Pistol=Prod.....accurate and fun....also bolt handle can be changed....
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Both are excellent suggestions. It's been a while, so bear with me, but I recall the Urban in .22 would shoot 14.3gr CPDs at around 830-840 FPS. I recall the P-Rod is the same but around 650 FPS. So if range is a factor I believe the Urban would be a better choice than the P-Rod. That said, both are fine PCPs, and you cannot go wrong with either. My Urban had no issues reaching out 55 yards with 14.3gr CPHPs.
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I suggest looking for a rifle or bullpup with a maximum fill pressure of 200 BAR / 2900 PSI. Will make sure whatever rifle chosen to be easy to fill. Buy a good hand pump like a Hill or go crazy and look at personal compressors. I recommend Omega Air Chargers. HW100 or HW110 have max fills of 200 BAR and many different configurations.
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One thing I have to say,....Do not buy a HILL handpump, save your money and buy a 50 bucks generic China pump.
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The Air Venturi Avenger is regulated, and the regulator can be adjusted externally, has a side-lever action, adjustable hammer, pretty good trigger, and affordable magazines. No other entry-level gun competes with that feature set. You can also buy a moderator adapter and put a moderator on it to make it very quiet.
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For consideration regarding Chinese hand-pumps:
https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/protective-blast-cage/page/2/#post-1121580
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Very best buy, cent by cent, go directly to a Daystate Regal XL.
Very best buy for the money.
Best accuracy, best quality, and you will WANT to keep it forever!
Very best buy for the money.
Best accuracy, best quality, and you will WANT to keep it forever!
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You're lucky/unlucky to be getting into PCP's now, depending on one's perspective. When I got into it about 6 years ago there were very few options. For MOST people I'd read about the natural progression was a Benjamin Discovery as a 1st pcp, then onto a Benjamin Marauder. After that level, one had a few more options available. Nowadays almost everyone's tastes can be accommodated. It's great to have so much information & so many options available but it can be overwhelming. Sounds like your tastes run more to the compact, bullpup type & not traditional rifle styling. I've shot but never owned bullpup & in general, hold no interest for me. Keep doing what you're doing. Ask questions & do research into not only how accurate the guns you're interested in are but also how reliable, how easily fixable, how easy to get parts, how well the manufacturer stands behind & supports them, etc.,etc,etc. Glad things were simpler for me but I envy the amount of options you have. Good luck with your quest!
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I bought a Marauder Pisol as my second PCP. First was the marauder. The marauder was heavy and is now gone. I still have the pistol. Along with a Brocock Compatto, FX Maverick and FX Wildcat. The one I will never part with is the pistol. I never shoot it down low enought that 40 strokes with the hand pump doesn't fill it up.
And 40 pumps is work. Get something in the 2900 psi range!
And 40 pumps is work. Get something in the 2900 psi range!
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Stoeger XM! very affordable,accurate,small reservoir for hand pump,optional factory bi pod,camo thumbhole. Best bang for your buck. Checkout U Tube.
I really like mine.I shoot Daisy rear peep for iron sights. Fit and finish is very good.
I really like mine.I shoot Daisy rear peep for iron sights. Fit and finish is very good.
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I thank you all for your reply’s. Not sure if a big fan of the gamo. It’s not the most powerful rifle out there for the price. And I thought the marauder pistol could hit 700 to 800fps. It’s not like an gonna be shooting a mile away think max range could get out of my yard is 60yrds. But because of the field we have behind our house sometimes we get rats that come in. So like to have something hard hitting as well n pretty light. There is a budget. Have even thought about looking at used. But I really do like the look of a more compact rifle. That shoots great from shoulder.
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Well I started with a talon P and that was both a great affordable gun and a perfect platform for tinkering and modifying. No bells and whistles though - just power. The plain-old-talon has a longer barrel and larger tank so is probably a better choice unless you want something more compact.
good luck
good luck
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