Benjamin Kratos .22 or .25 for 100 yds?

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I have the Kratos in .22 and it’s pretty well identical in performance to the Cayden, only with a higher shot count.
The benefit with using a .25 for long distance is that the heavier pellet is less affected by wind and retains more energy at longer distance than the lighter weight .22 pellet. 
I have been wondering if I can do a caliber change on the Kratos by just buying the barrel and bolt and magazine. Not sure yet If all the dimensions are the same on the magazines or what not. But... how cool would it be to just swap it out and crank up the hammer spring a few turns and be able to use it as a .25?

 
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The only thing the Kratos has that the cayden doesn’t is a bottle for more shots. If you dial up the power a bit on the cayden, I’m sure it’ll hit 100yds consistently well, but your shot count will go down. This is where a bigger bottle might be key. If you’re just using it for hunting, the cayden will do just fine, but bench target shooting and plinking, it might get tiring filling it often. 
 
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The only thing the Kratos has that the cayden doesn’t is a bottle for more shots. If you dial up the power a bit on the cayden, I’m sure it’ll hit 100yds consistently well, but your shot count will go down. This is where a bigger bottle might be key. If you’re just using it for hunting, the cayden will do just fine, but bench target shooting and plinking, it might get tiring filling it often.
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I probably jumped on the Cayden too fast and should have bought the Kratos. All I do is target shooting and although my Cayden is a beauty, and shoots very well, a higher shot count would be nice.
 
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I have the Kratos in .22 and it’s pretty well identical in performance to the Cayden, only with a higher shot count.
The benefit with using a .25 for long distance is that the heavier pellet is less affected by wind and retains more energy at longer distance than the lighter weight .22 pellet. 
I have been wondering if I can do a caliber change on the Kratos by just buying the barrel and bolt and magazine. Not sure yet If all the dimensions are the same on the magazines or what not. But... how cool would it be to just swap it out and crank up the hammer spring a few turns and be able to use it as a .25?
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Swappable barrels, wouldn't that be awesome!
 
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The only thing the Kratos has that the cayden doesn’t is a bottle for more shots. If you dial up the power a bit on the cayden, I’m sure it’ll hit 100yds consistently well, but your shot count will go down. This is where a bigger bottle might be key. If you’re just using it for hunting, the cayden will do just fine, but bench target shooting and plinking, it might get tiring filling it often.
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I probably jumped on the Cayden too fast and should have bought the Kratos. All I do is target shooting and although my Cayden is a beauty, and shoots very well, a higher shot count would be nice.
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So what is your shot count with the Cayden? I ask because I'm getting 96 shots /8 mags with my Cayden that are acceptable, using jsb 15.9 grain pellets, and the air valve 3/4 up. If I use Crosman 14.3 and turn it down to half I get nice groups and decent shot count for my needs. My distance is from 40 to 70 yards 
 
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So what is your shot count with the Cayden? I ask because I'm getting 96 shots /8 mags with my Cayden that are acceptable, using jsb 15.9 grain pellets, and the air valve 3/4 up. If I use Crosman 14.3 and turn it down to half I get nice groups and decent shot count for my needs. My distance is from 40 to 70 yards
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I primarily shoot 100 yds with AA 18.0 grain pellets. I pump it to 3,000 psi and after 3 magazines (36 rounds) the pressure is around 2,100 psi. By about the middle of the 4th magazine I can see the speeds and the POI drop. Mine is set to full power and I haven't budged it.

I've tried JSB Monsters (25.39 grain) and the POI was too low to correct with the elevation range on my scope. I hope to get a chrony soon so I can start getting some real data.
 
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I have a .5 L cf regulated 25 Kratos that I only shoot at 11yards.

Max power on the power wheel, regulated to 1100 psi, gives me a very quiet 550 fps and 250-300 shots with a 3625 psi fill. In 10 minutes I can change it back to the unregulated oem tank and get 43 to 45 FPE.

Only problem is I would have been better off with a 22 with the mission I have it assigned to. As a result I have also wondered about a caliber change.
 
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imo a .25 is much more predictable with long shots .. most of my guns are set up for 'prime pesting range' i guess you could say. 10-50y give or take, but if i want to take a long shot down the treeline in the front 80-90y with a good holdover, i know when the .25 hits somethin is gettin cracked lol .. .22 gets kindof 'washed out' is what it feels like even if you can hit things at distance .. but .25 isnt going to be cheap to shoot alot i can tell ya that .. not sure if i'd want one for a all day bench shooting gun in these times but depends on your disposable income situation i guess ..

.. far as the kratos though its a nice gun, just like the cayden .. its made more for the bench though, but as far as performance better than the cayden, nah i doubt it theyre basically the same gun with different stock, just different size tanks ... other than the look doubt youd be progressing simply getting the kratos .. the .25 cal may or may not be better pellet cost considered .. if shot count is the big thing, get a large size tank specifically just to tether to and fill it to 2.8 - 3k ... your shot count will be about 1000 then probably lol ..
 
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I feel this is like someone saying they bought a .223 ar 15 and they want to shoot 1000 yard matches. Will the rifle go 1000 yds? Yes. Will it group at all? No. Will it be able to do real damage to quarry? Not humanely. I’m gonna say wrong tool for the job.
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I have tuned and shot Kral made guns at under MOA on numerous occasions with pellets. I belive the Benjamin guns are Reximex made (Kral) family and use the same barrel equipment and should no problem reach out to 100 yards accurately. A 25 cal with 33.95gr JSB MKII Heavies are my go to pellets but I've never tried setting up a 22 with that power. 
 
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I feel this is like someone saying they bought a .223 ar 15 and they want to shoot 1000 yard matches. Will the rifle go 1000 yds? Yes. Will it group at all? No. Will it be able to do real damage to quarry? Not humanely. I’m gonna say wrong tool for the job.
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I have tuned and shot Kral made guns at under MOA on numerous occasions with pellets. I belive the Benjamin guns are Reximex made (Kral) family and use the same barrel equipment and should no problem reach out to 100 yards accurately. A 25 cal with 33.95gr JSB MKII Heavies are my go to pellets but I've never tried setting up a 22 with that power.
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My understanding is that the Cayden and Kratos are made by Kral. This is my first experience with one of their guns and I have to say I'm very impressed. I've only had it a couple weeks and I've only been shooting air rifles (seriously) for less than a month. This was today's best 100yd group in weird, fluky wind. Can't wait for a zero wind day to see what it really can do.

I'll probably end up with a Kratos or the Kral equivalent in .25 next. I only target shoot so the bigger tank is a bonus. Is it the "right tool" for 100 yds? Well you're talking to a guy who shot 1,000 yds with a .223 so I'd be the wrong guy to answer that question. LOL


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A heavier .22 pellet will be less affected by wind than a light .25.

Cost per shot is higher for the higher caliber. Air per shot is higher for larger caliber.

People are stuck on 100+ yard shooting. It is a red herring that lures shooters into dissatisfaction. 10 years ago, heck, even now, there are not many .22lr guns that shoot well at a 100 yards. Yes, there are a few, but not the majority of shooters get into those exotic guns. Can you hit a rabbit at 100 yards with your .22lr on the first cold bore shot?? If yes, then proceed to worry about your airgun doing the same. If not, you need to work on the shooter more than the tool.
 
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A heavier .22 pellet will be less affected by wind than a light .25.

Cost per shot is higher for the higher caliber. Air per shot is higher for larger caliber.
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True, but I'm finding that a there aren't a lot of rifles that can accurately shoot a heavy .22 pellet (I'm assuming you're talking about the JSB Monsters) at 850+ fps, and those that can (such as the FX's, RTI's, et al) are very pricey. Cost per shot isn't necessarily that much more expensive and yes, you're right about the shot count, so a bottled rifle is probably a good call.
 
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If you like idea idea swapabke barrels then get a Kral Knight and get a couple barrels that's what I did I got in 22 and I have the 25 barrel. If you're a fan of the Benji Craftsman line then I suggest you get Kral directly which I think are nicer. Pryamyd has a few or Krale in Europe is a great source. I got my . 25 Super Jumbo their
 
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A 28g in .22 will be better in the wind than a 28g .25 pellet, regardless of your wrong assumption of the pellet brand. Where did the requirement for 850 fps come from?? Faster is not better in most cases.
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Hey Jim, I'm not trying to argue with you, I'm just giving my perspective on my search for a rifle. If you shared the brand of pellet, maybe I wouldn't have to make assumptions. In any event I appreciate your input.
 
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