Benjamin Gunnar...Out in the Wild

Yeah an other re-branded, tweeked Turkish gun.



A Grand and doesn't even have a Carbon Fiber tank ?

Crosman is betting on the vast majority of the crowd,....." Loyal to American made guns "

Not a rebranded Kral or Reximex. Crosman/ Benjamin designed.

Jumbo Dazzle « Kral Arms This is what Benjamin looks like and is called on the Kral website.

They are not the same gun at all. 
 
Yeah an other re-branded, tweeked Turkish gun.



A Grand and doesn't even have a Carbon Fiber tank ?

Crosman is betting on the vast majority of the crowd,....." Loyal to American made guns "

I for one welcome the advancements Benjamin / Crosman have done. The Craftsman line has been a solid performer, popular options and a good value for money. I think that Crosman is giving customer's what they want with the Tacticool looking gunner. Also Benjamin/Crosman have a five year warranty. The Turk's have been building guns for quite awhile, I doubt that Crosman would team up if they didn't have control over production and quality. People spend BIG bucks on guns, only to be disappointed in their expectations. If a manufacturer can build a gun that performs as well and is less expensive what's the problem folks? That's a win for consumer's and keeps the others on their toes.LET'S FACE IT We all want to drive Italian sports cars, I can afford Chevy SO that's what I buy. Same in my thinking with airguns. Plus I have a bad ass chevy 

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@ToddGeddes63, I’m with you. I have a Cayden that I paid $390 on sale, that will compete with $1500 - $2500 guns I have at 50+yds. I would gladly pay full price for it now knowing how awesome its is. I have serious intentions on buying a Gunnar in .25 if the reviews are solid. There are a couple of guns that I really want, but I can’t justify spending nearly $2000 or more, those days are over for me unless I hit the lottery.
 
Ho yeah Kral guns are great indeed, way better then Crosman guns period,

Why would anybody think that Crosman would improve them when they can't make a gun that good in the 1st place ?

They might get a little cosmetic work to make them look a bit different from the Turkish guns that are sold under the original brand but the hart of the gun is still there.

Crosman need the Turkish guns to stay alive because they own models are way pass due.

I still would rather buy and will buy Turkish guns but go through Troy Hammer because when they come from him you know you are golden.
 
I'm a Crossman fan, I too purchased a Cayden and it has performed outstanding. I'm looking for PCP #2 and am looking for a lighter and shorter gun to carry in the woods for squirrel hunting.



I've been intrigued by this gun since I first saw it. I know how the global supply chain has been and unlike most, I get it and know how everyone has struggled to get there shipment's here from overseas, So I don't blame Crossman at all. I guarantee you, they wanted it here last year, but global shipping is out of everyone control for the moment.



The $1000 price tag does seem a bit steep, when compared to the other guns I've narrowed it down too (The AGT Vixen, and the Airmaks katran).

The fact it takes Magazine I already have it nice. I'm not one to jump on a new product right away, I can be patient and see how it unfolds. Once a few of the reviews come out and more of these show up in the wild, that will tell me if it's worth the $1k price tag.



The AEA's are now the new hotness and they do look like they have some horsepower, Lot's of choices, not a bad time to be in PCP air guns.
 
I'm a Crossman fan, I too purchased a Cayden and it has performed outstanding. I'm looking for PCP #2 and am looking for a lighter and shorter gun to carry in the woods for squirrel hunting.



I've been intrigued by this gun since I first saw it. I know how the global supply chain has been and unlike most, I get it and know how everyone has struggled to get there shipment's here from overseas, So I don't blame Crossman at all. I guarantee you, they wanted it here last year, but global shipping is out of everyone control for the moment.



The $1000 price tag does seem a bit steep, when compared to the other guns I've narrowed it down too (The AGT Vixen, and the Airmaks katran).

The fact it takes Magazine I already have it nice. I'm not one to jump on a new product right away, I can be patient and see how it unfolds. Once a few of the reviews come out and more of these show up in the wild, that will tell me if it's worth the $1k price tag.



The AEA's are now the new hotness and they do look like they have some horsepower, Lot's of choices, not a bad time to be in PCP air guns.

I’m a Benjamin/ Crosman fan as well. I’m SUPER happy with the new TurkBenjistan guns. Folks seem to have a weird contradictory mindset about Crosman being “left in the dust” and say that they are dying but at the same time are critical of new offerings. Oh well to each their own hahahahahaha. As for value, I don’t know if I’d say $1000 is steep at all for it. The Armada is selling for about $700 and it’s just a marauder in a cool stock. Not regulated, not a bottle gun, not a side lever.... considering the inflation we’ve seen in prices with everything else I’d say they are right on the money at $1000. That’s about 500-1000 bucks below a Uragan (depending on the model). 300 bucks more than the Armada and significantly more advanced than the Armada.... sounds like a bargain. It would cost a lot more than 300 for a person to apply those upgrades to an Armada. If the Gunnar is solid then it’s going to be a good value. Time will tell.

I’d hoped they’d use the Gunnar to bring out a .30 cal in their offerings but they’ve decided to go with .45 in that platform instead. Maybe a .30 will surface one day.... 

Have you checked out the new Crosman 362 for a lightweight squirrel gun? I’m thinking one of those with a donnyfl Tanto on it will be just what the Dr ordered for some squirrel hunting.


 
Designed by Velocity Outdoor, "They are Crosman, Benjamin & more" It is all by itself, They outsourced to Kuzey, a sister company to Kral Arms. It is not a copy of anything. I spoke with Velocity Outdoor about the outsourcing. The main reason is, the lack of employees @ this time. This is a problem world wide, due to covid.

Ahhhhh, how easy for people to believe stuff when they wish for it to be the way they would like it to be.



The Turks make better guns then Crosman, so Crosman is taking advantage of that to bring new guns to the market.

Turkish manufactures surely don't need Crosman to go there and design guns for them :)
 
You are the most negative person on this site! If you are so anti-America, Why are you on this site? Every conversation your involved in, you bash American goods! you also called Steve from AEAC, Rick @ shooter1721 & Donnie from Baker air liars, Your exact words, they are paid to lie and are given hand picked items for their reviews. Fact is, they all tell the truth. KRAL DID NOT DESIGN this gun! velocity outdoor did. They spent more than 2 years with the design. Another one of your past comments, the marauder SAM is a flop, with poor reviews everywhere. Fact is, everywhere you look it rates 4.5-5 stars by verified purchasers... Now lets look @ your superior Turk guns. The kral semi-auto was plagued with so many problems, that pyramid air, airgun depot & many more dropped them from their line asap. Hatsan semi auto and full auto, all have poor reviews and also plagued with issues... Benjamin got it right with their first attempt... Get a life dude, Go back home to uncle Putin.
 
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