Backyard safari and "Mini Sniping"..

[jamieinmd]

I remember as a kid, reading the Beeman catalog and learning about these subjects and thinking"One day"........well, that day has come and evolved into Field target, Silhouette shooting and something called "combat speed silhouette". My how things have changed.

Has anyone ever thought what the optical relationship is between shooting flies at 25 yards is to say ground hogs at 500 yards ?

 

[AJ3]

I think it would just be a ratio of target size to distance...fly at 0.20 inch/ (25 yd*3 ft/yd*12"/ft)=0.00022

so if a ground hog is 8 inches and maintaining the same ratio, the equivalent distance to shooting a fly at 25 yards...8/0.00022=36,000 inches or 1000 yards.

I think, have had a few beers

 

[jamieinmd]

WOW ! Thank you AJ. Have a beer on me. After all that number crunching , you earned it. ( I have the Guns and Ammo magazine with the original MIni -sniping article) My how things have changed. Now, it is not only common to place pellets on top of one another at 25 yards, it is expected.

Thank you again.

Jamie

 

[Gunnertrones]

Well........... Do not forget there is a pellet-drift due to the gun`s own spread that will make a significant impact on the actual calculation.
But I do like the mathematic AJ3 - very nice!

 

[JohnL57]

Seems like there's also this factor known as wind.......

 

[billydjann]

Now you got me going....
I have to set up a target at 25 yards and see what I can do against these flies...
You people on here have gotten me to do distance... so closes target right now is... 36 yards..
(36 because I am to lazy to move it closer by a yard) ...

Sounds like fun... for sure

 

[AJ3]

I agree for sure that many other factors come into play regarding shooting at 1000 yards vs 25 yards. Jamie was questioning the optical equivalent between a fly at 25 and a ground hog...believe the 1000 yards is a close approximation optically.

Just for fun, can consider a 5' tall game animal. The optical equivalent to a fly at 25 yards is 4.3 miles!

 

[mark404]

one of my favorite pass times is to get a bright color sponge put it in a shallow pan with Pepsi, usually a day in advance so the hornets can find it and then shoot the hornets out of the air, most of the time they hover before they land.... Honey bees are off limits

 

[jamieinmd]

I only shoot hornets, flies and yellow jackets. I figure beneficial species are friendlies mixed in with hostiles. Speaking of hostiles, Asian Giant Hornets have been spotted in Illinois. These rascals are aggressive and potentially deadly. Back yard big game.

Jamie

 

[billydjann]

Hey
Jamieinmd
I found this target.... You more than likely have seen it....
but just in case you run out of watermelon here it jis...

 

[jamieinmd]

That's awesome ! Thank you !

 

[jamieinmd]

I saw what I am positive was an Asian Hornet out back. It landed briefly on the target tree, ran behind some bark and flew off after posing briefly on the top of the stump. I Just wish I had the gun up and ready to have had a go at that booger. I was just using the scope on the rifle to spot with. It was neat to look at though.

 

[billydjann]

I am going to print some off and try it this weekend....
Lets see what we can do .....

 

[John "spysir" Blount]

 When we did mini sniping at the GOB club it was shot at 25 yards , 9mm shell casing set in playdough and 10m rifles (figure 600fps tps) , really a lot of fun esp. without even a blade of grass around to judge wind. It is the low power that equals things out to longer ranges I think).

John

 

[CptMoonlight]

And, of course, at 25 yards, the Coriolis effect isn't taken into account. But bug shooting is fun.

 

[huntjunky]

One other factor to consider is the relationship of the projectile size to that of the target...with AJ's cerebral/accurate calcs, and the fact that the pellet is the size of the fly, one would have to use an 8" - 10" diameter projectile, for the prairie dogs, to provide for an accurate comparison. It does make a difference in POI on target. As an example, when shooting archery competition, we find an advantage using "fatter" arrows to cut the X.

 

[AJ3]

That's a really good point...would have to be lobbing canon balls at 1000 yards

 

[jfrazier30]

This thread comes at a perfect time! I just spent the weekend shooting grasshoppers and had so much fun! I estimate that I shot nearly 100 of em! Here's an action shot.

 

[jamieinmd]

I have been using watermelon rinds to great effect. It draws in flies, hornets and yellow jackets almost as fast as I can shoot them. I'm using an FX400FT in 22 cal, a Leupold MK4, 8.5-25x and FX 16 gr pellets. What a load of fun.

Jamie

 

[Fred_Bear]

Air Soft - Wasp Hunt........I can spend hours shooting at wasp around my house and dont have to worry as much about collateral damage. improved my off hand shooting skills too.