I've wasted $200+ in pellets trying to get a decent .25 airgun now, and I'm on my fourth lemon....
So, my first PCP was a Hatsan flash .25 , and I bought it for $259 off amazon a couple of years back. It was a pretty nice gun, never leaked even one bar of pressure when I stored it for 8 months. It was pretty darn accurate too, I didn't really shoot any groups with it, but I did take dozens and dozens of squirrels and a couple coons. Also did I mention I got a squirrel at over 100 yards? (to be fair, I was simply plinking at 100 yards, and I was sighted in exactly for that range, so when a squirrel climbed down the tree exactly where I was plinking at, I couldn't resist). It lasted around a year and a half before the accuracy randomly become unusable. To be fair, I won't count this gun as a lemon, because it didn't have any issues out of the box. I tried everything to fix it, and in the process, I wasted 1400 more pellets. Eventually I gave up, and sold it.
Using the money I got selling my Flash, I bought a new PCP. The gun I ended up getting was a Kral Puncher breaker silent. It was my favorite gun out of all of them. I consistenly got 0.3" groups at 40 yards with it, no problem at all. Sadly, only a couple weeks after I got it, it out leaked overnight.
So, I sent it back and got a replacement, which was just as good, but it ALSO leaked after a couple weeks, so I sent it back, got a full refund. I regret this decision to this day. I wish I would have just got it fixed, instead of getting a refund.
After a month or so, I still hadn't recieved my refund, but I went ahead and bought a benjamin marauder .25. It ended up coming 10 days late because pyramid's warehouse was 10 days behind. I ended up calling them, and finally, I got an explanation. A week or so later, the marauder arrived. It was such a nice gun, except for the fact that it couldn't hit the broadside of a barn at 37 yards. Oh yeah, did I mention it was also a slow leaker? As with my flash, I had tried everything to fix the accuracy, and I shot 700+ pellets trying to figure out the cause of the inaccuracy. Eventually, I had exhausted every variable there is, and I gave up.
At this point I was frustrated. I mean getting lemon is bad, but getting three lemons? That's a lot worse...
I sent it back, and I really did my research this time. at this point, I still hadn't gotten the refund from my Kral. I finally settled on the ATI Nova Liberty in .22. I had watched all the videos on the gun shooting sub MOA at 100, and I was so impressed that I had to buy it. The minute I saw the Kral's refund money come through I went and immediatly tried to buy the Nova Liberty off Airguns of Arizona. But when I tried to buy it, the transaction did not go through. I called AOA, and I spoke to a helpful representative who told me AOA had stopped selling it, because of all the issues customers were having with them. I guess I could say that I dodged a bullet there.
At this point I was beyong frustrated, and I decided to go with what I knew... so I bought a Hatsan Flash. well actually, I bought the Hatsan Flashpup from Pyramid Air, but from what I heard, they are essentially the same thing as the Flash except for a few details.
When the Flashpup arrived, I went up to my buddy's house to shoot it. I was disappointed to find that grouped below expectations at 70 yards. The best pellet, which was the JSB 25.39 pellets (as with all my .25 airguns), still couldn't consitently group under 2 inches, and occasionally went over 3 inches. I blamed it on the shooting rest I made and went home. After a couple of weeks of trying to fix it and testing in my backyard (and over 700 pellets), I finally determined it was a lost cause. With the flashpup, I was getting 1-2 inch groups at 37 yards. This doesn't even come close to the accuracy of my Kral, which was 0.3 inches at 40 yards.
I can't even begin to express my frustration with this situation! In total over 4 guns, I have shot almost $200 worth of pellets just trying to get a decent .25 airgun.
I don't know what to do!
Do I send it back? Will Pyramid even give me a refund for an inaccurate gun? Do pyramid air airguns always have issues like this? Should I buy
Thanks to the marauder and the flashpup, my standard of what is 'accurate' is lower than it was when I had my Kral, and I'm hoping for 3/4" at 50 yards. I'd love a sub 1 1/2" gun at 100 yards, but my experience with the FOUR lemons as taught me never to expect anything except disappointment...
So as stated in the title, Are there even budget- friendly (<$500), accurate, airguns that won't leak after a couple of weeks?
Thanks for reading my rant,
scruffy,
So, my first PCP was a Hatsan flash .25 , and I bought it for $259 off amazon a couple of years back. It was a pretty nice gun, never leaked even one bar of pressure when I stored it for 8 months. It was pretty darn accurate too, I didn't really shoot any groups with it, but I did take dozens and dozens of squirrels and a couple coons. Also did I mention I got a squirrel at over 100 yards? (to be fair, I was simply plinking at 100 yards, and I was sighted in exactly for that range, so when a squirrel climbed down the tree exactly where I was plinking at, I couldn't resist). It lasted around a year and a half before the accuracy randomly become unusable. To be fair, I won't count this gun as a lemon, because it didn't have any issues out of the box. I tried everything to fix it, and in the process, I wasted 1400 more pellets. Eventually I gave up, and sold it.
Using the money I got selling my Flash, I bought a new PCP. The gun I ended up getting was a Kral Puncher breaker silent. It was my favorite gun out of all of them. I consistenly got 0.3" groups at 40 yards with it, no problem at all. Sadly, only a couple weeks after I got it, it out leaked overnight.
So, I sent it back and got a replacement, which was just as good, but it ALSO leaked after a couple weeks, so I sent it back, got a full refund. I regret this decision to this day. I wish I would have just got it fixed, instead of getting a refund.
After a month or so, I still hadn't recieved my refund, but I went ahead and bought a benjamin marauder .25. It ended up coming 10 days late because pyramid's warehouse was 10 days behind. I ended up calling them, and finally, I got an explanation. A week or so later, the marauder arrived. It was such a nice gun, except for the fact that it couldn't hit the broadside of a barn at 37 yards. Oh yeah, did I mention it was also a slow leaker? As with my flash, I had tried everything to fix the accuracy, and I shot 700+ pellets trying to figure out the cause of the inaccuracy. Eventually, I had exhausted every variable there is, and I gave up.
At this point I was frustrated. I mean getting lemon is bad, but getting three lemons? That's a lot worse...
I sent it back, and I really did my research this time. at this point, I still hadn't gotten the refund from my Kral. I finally settled on the ATI Nova Liberty in .22. I had watched all the videos on the gun shooting sub MOA at 100, and I was so impressed that I had to buy it. The minute I saw the Kral's refund money come through I went and immediatly tried to buy the Nova Liberty off Airguns of Arizona. But when I tried to buy it, the transaction did not go through. I called AOA, and I spoke to a helpful representative who told me AOA had stopped selling it, because of all the issues customers were having with them. I guess I could say that I dodged a bullet there.
At this point I was beyong frustrated, and I decided to go with what I knew... so I bought a Hatsan Flash. well actually, I bought the Hatsan Flashpup from Pyramid Air, but from what I heard, they are essentially the same thing as the Flash except for a few details.
When the Flashpup arrived, I went up to my buddy's house to shoot it. I was disappointed to find that grouped below expectations at 70 yards. The best pellet, which was the JSB 25.39 pellets (as with all my .25 airguns), still couldn't consitently group under 2 inches, and occasionally went over 3 inches. I blamed it on the shooting rest I made and went home. After a couple of weeks of trying to fix it and testing in my backyard (and over 700 pellets), I finally determined it was a lost cause. With the flashpup, I was getting 1-2 inch groups at 37 yards. This doesn't even come close to the accuracy of my Kral, which was 0.3 inches at 40 yards.
I can't even begin to express my frustration with this situation! In total over 4 guns, I have shot almost $200 worth of pellets just trying to get a decent .25 airgun.
I don't know what to do!
Do I send it back? Will Pyramid even give me a refund for an inaccurate gun? Do pyramid air airguns always have issues like this? Should I buy
Thanks to the marauder and the flashpup, my standard of what is 'accurate' is lower than it was when I had my Kral, and I'm hoping for 3/4" at 50 yards. I'd love a sub 1 1/2" gun at 100 yards, but my experience with the FOUR lemons as taught me never to expect anything except disappointment...
So as stated in the title, Are there even budget- friendly (<$500), accurate, airguns that won't leak after a couple of weeks?
Thanks for reading my rant,
scruffy,