Are fliers common with CPHP’s?

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I’ve been shooting a lot this winter (indoors) at 10 meters. Trying to conserve my AA and JSB lead for warmer weather outdoors so I’ve been using the more economical CPHP’s in .22. They shoot OK but not nearly as accurate as the others. I just experience a lot more fliers with the CPHP’s then I do with the better ammo. Is this pretty common with these pellets? I’ve been using the CPHP primarily in my Brocock Sniper XR and Taipan Vet. I see far less fliers out of my Avenger but still occasionally so maybe it’s barrel related?
 
The CPHPs in .22 have been good sub 20 yard ratting pellets out of my Artemis pp700sa pistol. Too many flyers with them out of my wickedly accurate Bantam HR. The Crosman Premiers shoot good out to 50 yards with my Bantam, but still have those inexplicable flyers. The JSB Exact Jumbo 18s shoot consistently best out of my Bantam and Compatto.


 
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Recently I bought like 20 tins from Walmart and as soon as they got new ones in I bought all they had again. The second batch of 20 or 30 tins were visibly shinier and had way less pronounced parting lines and after I washed them and sprayed with lemon pledge they are actually very good. Honestly I can't tell the difference between thier accuracy or jsb but I only have 10 yards to work with in my backyard. What I think happened was Crosman must have finally changed thier dies and I got lucky. I can say that CPH work great in my pp700w and my marauder field and target. I get more fliers from my dad's Gamo urban. Honestly the pp700w shoots them better than jsb even with the old cph batch. I think it just depends on your gun and what batch you get but generally you have less fliers with the expensive pellets. It all comes down to quality control. But seriously wash them in dish soap and water and spray with lemon pledge as soon as they dry.... And I mean as soon as they dry. 48 hrs later they get some kind of corrosive film on them. 
 
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They tend to have a bunch of undersized ones in the tins that I have had. Pick out the "big ones" and they shoot great. The small ones were the fliers in my guns. 

That's been my findings anyway.
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think you are right about that. I find them to be more consistent/accurate with tighter barrels. Good example is the older STX barrel shot the .22 CPHP not that great with fliers, new superior liner shots them amazingly well and so do the TJ barrel I have which is very tight. 

in .177 I found them to be pretty accurate with LW barrels and new FX barrel but still see flyers here and there. 
 
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sizing die is a good solution for a gun or two. some shoot them well out the tin... other guns get fliers. they have wide variances in head sizes and weights
 
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Recently I bought like 20 tins from Walmart and as soon as they got new ones in I bought all they had again. The second batch of 20 or 30 tins were visibly shinier and had way less pronounced parting lines and after I washed them and sprayed with lemon pledge they are actually very good. Honestly I can't tell the difference between thier accuracy or jsb but I only have 10 yards to work with in my backyard. What I think happened was Crosman must have finally changed thier dies and I got lucky. I can say that CPH work great in my pp700w and my marauder field and target. I get more fliers from my dad's Gamo urban. Honestly the pp700w shoots them better than jsb even with the old cph batch. I think it just depends on your gun and what batch you get but generally you have less fliers with the expensive pellets. It all comes down to quality control. But seriously wash them in dish soap and water and spray with lemon pledge as soon as they dry.... And I mean as soon as they dry. 48 hrs later they get some kind of corrosive film on them.
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Glad we don’t shop at the same Walmart. Might have been a confrontation in the parking lot.
 
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Recently I bought like 20 tins from Walmart and as soon as they got new ones in I bought all they had again. The second batch of 20 or 30 tins were visibly shinier and had way less pronounced parting lines and after I washed them and sprayed with lemon pledge they are actually very good. Honestly I can't tell the difference between thier accuracy or jsb but I only have 10 yards to work with in my backyard. What I think happened was Crosman must have finally changed thier dies and I got lucky. I can say that CPH work great in my pp700w and my marauder field and target. I get more fliers from my dad's Gamo urban. Honestly the pp700w shoots them better than jsb even with the old cph batch. I think it just depends on your gun and what batch you get but generally you have less fliers with the expensive pellets. It all comes down to quality control. But seriously wash them in dish soap and water and spray with lemon pledge as soon as they dry.... And I mean as soon as they dry. 48 hrs later they get some kind of corrosive film on them.
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@Raden1942 I recently read that usually all commercially produced pellets have a graphite or some other sort of coating on them from the factory. I think they’re coated to prevent oxidation.Why do you wash them before lubing them with lemon pledge?How exactly are you washing them in the soapy water? Do you agitate them in the solution or are you using some sort of scrub brush?
 
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ALL Depends on the barrel. Some fantastic extremely pellet friendly barrels shoot even the crappy lots of CPHPs very well like the ORIGINAL MMHF and lotsa older LW and BSA and HW and Anshutz and FWB and Steyr barrels like from 20+ year old guns even guns from the 1980s and 90s. Newer guns not so lucky and require more perfect pellets. The old FX (PRE-ST) LW barrels are fantastic too very pellet friendly even shooting not perfect mediocre lot batches.

If you get a fantastically good barrel then you dont even need to sort or size or weigh or roll the pellets they shoot perfect straight out of the tins.

I bought a lot of OLD MMHF barreled guns just for the barrels.


 
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Also the old 20+ year OLD Theoben Rapids with Anshutz and LW barrels are extremely pellet friendly as well. So are the OLD Daystates with LW barrels and OLD BSA and HW guns.

The OLD LW FX barrels AOA were selling years ago were the good ones. The newer LW blanks don't seem to be as pellet friendly. DUNNO WHY???

You guys MUST HAVE (OR HAD AND REGRETFULLY SOLD) at least ONE GUN that's dead nuts accurate no matter what pellet you feed it right?
 
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They tend to have a bunch of undersized ones in the tins that I have had. Pick out the "big ones" and they shoot great. The small ones were the fliers in my guns. 

That's been my findings anyway.
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So how did you sort the undersized ones out?
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I measured them with a LeadHead pellet measuring tool. Not made anymore, and were like $600 when new. I just happened to stumble into one for cheap, lol. 

I would just buy better pellets than sort through cheap ones. I just happened to have the tool or I wouldn't have bothered. 

As hard as these pellets are, you could probably measure them with a set of good calipers. 
 
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