Anyone LOAN a gun to a friend that got TRASHED?

Ive let neighbors/buddies borrow tools before, and they destroyed them... Let a neighbor borrow a gas/oil mix brand new blower, told him not to fill it with gas, use MY PREMIX... dummy put regular gas..destoyed... so I've learned never to lend out anything of value, especially a 1500 airgun...



wouldn't you be responsible if you lend out an airgun and they commit a crime? just like a regular firearm?
 
Sounds like that friend just bought that airgun, I'm sure we'd arrange a payment plan or trade. But NO, it's never happened to me. I wouldn't take the risk if I wasn't afore prepared to lose it. The word "friend" is often misused in my opinion, but true friendship extends past material objects. Life is short and true friends are rare. Plenty of places to buy new guns, where do you buy friends?


 
Ive let neighbors/buddies borrow tools before, and they destroyed them... Let a neighbor borrow a gas/oil mix brand new blower, told him not to fill it with gas, use MY PREMIX... dummy put regular gas..destoyed... so I've learned never to lend out anything of value, especially a 1500 airgun...



wouldn't you be responsible if you lend out an airgun and they commit a crime? just like a regular firearm?

(please pardon my expression but) HOW IN THE HELL DID YOU KNOW IT WAS A $1500.00 GUN?????????????????????? Yo!
 
I do it this way I don't loan things to people I cannot afford, monetarily or emotionally, to give away. Still when they trash something I give it to them as a reminder of what they did. Although I don't tell them that. When they don't return something likely it won't happen again cuz they lost their privilege of being loaned anything again unless the borrowed item is returned. I would never treat them poorly afterwards just don't trust them in that specific way again.
 
Ive let neighbors/buddies borrow tools before, and they destroyed them... Let a neighbor borrow a gas/oil mix brand new blower, told him not to fill it with gas, use MY PREMIX... dummy put regular gas..destoyed... so I've learned never to lend out anything of value, especially a 1500 airgun...



wouldn't you be responsible if you lend out an airgun and they commit a crime? just like a regular firearm?

(please pardon my expression but) HOW IN THE HELL DID YOU KNOW IT WAS A $1500.00 GUN?????????????????????? Yo!

I didn't let him borrow it.. I finally got smart. Told him to use my old daisy red Ryder.. he was not too happy.
 
I have the same philosophy as biohazard. I tend to just think of it as investing in people. If they bring it back the trust is earned. Generally I only loan guns to family. Even still they end up keeping it more times than not. However 10 years down the line when I need a pickup truck I am not above using thier folly as leverage to buy thier truck for 500 under value or something like that. Never loan money or tools to anyone you wouldn't just give them to. 
 
Agree, I don't lend anything.

One brother and one friend would I lend ANYTHING. Everyone else needs to buy their own.

I lent a tool years back to a guy that I "thought" I could trust. Not only did it come back bent, but he told me that I gave it to him bent. Why would I lend him a tool that is unusable / junk / a throw away ? We both looked at it closely as I handed it to him, it worked just fine. I dropped it in the trash in front of him to prove that it was garbage now. Yep, NO MORE tool lent out (except to the two mentioned).

Though when I was doing a lot of powder fire gun shooting, I did let others shoot my guns. But it was at the time, and in front of me. And they did the same. Share, but no "borrow".



Mike
 
Agree, I don't lend anything.

One brother and one friend would I lend ANYTHING. Everyone else needs to buy their own.

I lent a tool years back to a guy that I "thought" I could trust. Not only did it come back bent, but he told me that I gave it to him bent. Why would I lend him a tool that is unusable / junk / a throw away ? We both looked at it closely as I handed it to him, it worked just fine. I dropped it in the trash in front of him to prove that it was garbage now. Yep, NO MORE tool lent out (except to the two mentioned).

Though when I was doing a lot of powder fire gun shooting, I did let others shoot my guns. But it was at the time, and in front of me. And they did the same. Share, but no "borrow".



Mike

Thanks MIKE now THAT makes PERFECT SENSE to me. 😉 Yo!
 
Yes, I have had that problem in the past, No, I don't have that problem or friends anymore. I was raised by parents off the farm from Ireland. They did not believe in borrowing, but if it did happen you were to return that item better then the way you received it. Example, borrow a car/truck, get it washed, make sure there is more gas then when you got it.

I've been given stuff back scratched or broken and been told, I didn't do that or I'm sorry. I ask them are you going to fix it and the answer; No if I could afford that I wouldn't have borrowed yours.

The sad part is it has taken the better part of my life to learn that lesson. "Shame on me"

Eamon
 
I loan stuff all the time, but I never load a firearm or an airgun. Same thing with my car. Hammer? Sure. Tractor? Nope. My rule is basically anything that can kill someone else doesn’t get lent to associates. I trust a few friends enough but still wouldn’t on the airgun note. I know it is an adult toy but my firearm instincts say Nope not going to happen.
 
Yes, I have had that problem in the past, No, I don't have that problem or friends anymore. I was raised by parents off the farm from Ireland. They did not believe in borrowing, but if it did happen you were to return that item better then the way you received it. Example, borrow a car/truck, get it washed, make sure there is more gas then when you got it.

I've been given stuff back scratched or broken and been told, I didn't do that or I'm sorry. I ask them are you going to fix it and the answer; No if I could afford that I wouldn't have borrowed yours.

The sad part is it has taken the better part of my life to learn that lesson. "Shame on me"

Eamon

OH YOU TOO? WE ALL FRIENDS HERE MAN!!! AIRGUN BUDS!!! Just DON'T let us BORROW anything DON'T want any reason for you to NOT BE OUR FRIEND. Yo!
 
My wife’s mentality, is like what everyone thinks today- “it was an accident”. Well, what cracks me up is I don’t see anyone reaching into their pocketbook to offer payment to fix or replace these days, instead, it’s I’m sorry, it was an accident. Sure, I get it. But damage thru misuse, like the guy that used straight gas instead of two cycle mix and destroyed the lawn tool? Even after he was told, that’s just plain stupid a$$.



when I was young and naive I loaned my first lawn mower I bought, a sears crafts man with electronic start, to my neighbor. I heard a huge WHAM noise in his backyard and the lawnmower came to a halt. Later that evening he says thanks for letting him use it.



next time I go to use it, the blades are scraping against the inner walls, causing a wobble. I take it to a local small engine repair shop, and I’ll never forget the grouchy old geezer in there. When he turned my lawn mower upside down and saw the bent shaft, he looked up at me and asked- “ you loaned this to someone, didn’t you?” I said yeah, I was being a kind neigh....he cuts me off and yells “ Don’t ever loan out any of your chit, ever, cause no one will ever take care of it like you will, you got that!!!” 

Since that day forward, I don’t loan out my stuff. I’ve hired relatives and friends that needed financial help and had them blow leaves, weed eat, all using my equipment, and you know what? They don’t care. I’ve gone thru three weed eaters and two electric leaf blowers. Something about using a 100’ #16 cord on a electric leaf blower they don’t get. I hand them (2) 50’ #12 cords and they say it’s too heavy. 

Once, I handed them a 25’ #12, and a 50’ #14 cords. I said plug in the #12 to the outlet, then at the end connect the smaller cord which goes to the blower. An hour later that person comes back, holding a cord that has its outer sheathing melted, and says I don’t have power at the outlet. Well, the breaker tripped, I said. How did you plug it? Like you said, they say. Show me. They plug the #14 cord to the outlet and the #12 cord to the blower, which also quit working, I might add. 



I dont hire hire that person anymore.