Anyone have experience with Walther Reign UTX?
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If you are only shooting at close distance like under 25-30 yards it's fine otherwise there's gonna be a 100+ fps velocity spread from start to finish so a chrony is mandatory to find the sweet spot for best low start fill pressure on order to get that perfect 20-25 shots if planning to shoot past 30 yards.
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Hi, I am new to Airgun Nation and this is my first very personal report. I live in France and I own a Walther Reign 6,35 / .25 since two weeks in the open < 70 Joule version. Here in Europe the gun comes with a shrouded barrel with a 1/2xUNF thread for a silencer. I have fitted a DonnyFL Tanto silencer to it, this made the gun super silent. In this configuration it is more than backyard friendly. Nevertheless the sound being generated by the mechanical parts in the stock during firing really was a pain in my righthand ear. It was necessary to open up the stock and fill all empty spaces with some kind of foam. Thereafter it was ok. .My gun is equipped with an UTG 4x16 compact scope, zeroed at 50m/54,7 yd. My intention is to shoot the gun up to 100m/ 109,4yd. The shooting experience with the gun right out of the box was quite difficult. The look and the feel in the shoulder are great, the gun suits like a glove. Shooting it the first time was rather disappointing. I filled it all up to 230 bars and used Benjamin airgun ammunition domed. Accuracy was a disaster, with pellets flying all over the target at 50m. I tried various different kinds of pellets, no consistency at all. Finally I found out that there several reasons for the inaccuracy:
First: The terrible trigger out of the box with nearly no travel on the so called first stage and a creepy strange break of the second stage. Luckily this could be adjusted with the two adjustment screws inside the stock. The Walther manual is a bit misguiding on how to adjust the trigger properly, but with a little bit of trial and error I got it perfectly adjusted. Now it has a nice first stage with a solid wall, that can be felt clearly and a crisp break without any creeping at all. Trigger pull is medium for me, I don`t have a pull gage.
Second: The gun is not regulated. It is only accurate in a certain pressure range. My gun is perfectly accurate from 200bars to 135 bars on the pressure gage being installed. This range gives me 27 ( three mags ) precise shots. At this pressure range it is absolutely accurate up to 100m and a joy to shoot. I have shot the gun over a chrony and the result in variation of m/s confirmed the above finding. Shooting the gun above 200bars or below 125bars does not make any sense at all and is a waste of pellets.
Third reason is the ammunition. I have tried all solid lead pellets being available here in France, the difference between the pellets is significant. My gun works best with the H&N Baracuda 2,00g/30.86gr pellets, followed by the JSB King Heavy MKII 2,20g/33.95gr pellets. Accuracy in between these two pellets is virtually the same, with some more flyers on the JSB side. I do not wash my pellets, but I do lune them with Napier pellet lube. In my eyes it makes a significant difference, that can be seen in the grouping. It does not increase the speed of the pellets - as being advertised - but it ha a positive affect on accuracy.
The UTG scope works well,. If I go from 50m to 100 m I have to give it 22 MOA up to stay centered with the reticle. The funny thing is that it takes a minute or two for the scope to internally follow the clicks all the way. After that it resets to zero with no problem.
In a few words: It is a fantastic gun if you are willingly to do a little bit of work to it and if you are ok with a total amount of 27 high precision shots.
First: The terrible trigger out of the box with nearly no travel on the so called first stage and a creepy strange break of the second stage. Luckily this could be adjusted with the two adjustment screws inside the stock. The Walther manual is a bit misguiding on how to adjust the trigger properly, but with a little bit of trial and error I got it perfectly adjusted. Now it has a nice first stage with a solid wall, that can be felt clearly and a crisp break without any creeping at all. Trigger pull is medium for me, I don`t have a pull gage.
Second: The gun is not regulated. It is only accurate in a certain pressure range. My gun is perfectly accurate from 200bars to 135 bars on the pressure gage being installed. This range gives me 27 ( three mags ) precise shots. At this pressure range it is absolutely accurate up to 100m and a joy to shoot. I have shot the gun over a chrony and the result in variation of m/s confirmed the above finding. Shooting the gun above 200bars or below 125bars does not make any sense at all and is a waste of pellets.
Third reason is the ammunition. I have tried all solid lead pellets being available here in France, the difference between the pellets is significant. My gun works best with the H&N Baracuda 2,00g/30.86gr pellets, followed by the JSB King Heavy MKII 2,20g/33.95gr pellets. Accuracy in between these two pellets is virtually the same, with some more flyers on the JSB side. I do not wash my pellets, but I do lune them with Napier pellet lube. In my eyes it makes a significant difference, that can be seen in the grouping. It does not increase the speed of the pellets - as being advertised - but it ha a positive affect on accuracy.
The UTG scope works well,. If I go from 50m to 100 m I have to give it 22 MOA up to stay centered with the reticle. The funny thing is that it takes a minute or two for the scope to internally follow the clicks all the way. After that it resets to zero with no problem.
In a few words: It is a fantastic gun if you are willingly to do a little bit of work to it and if you are ok with a total amount of 27 high precision shots.
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Thanks Reign for the detailed review. Be aware that the UTX (US model) has some differences. No word on interchangeability of parts between the models - some Euro versions are apparently regulated. Swapping out the moderator is major surgery on a UTX.
I purchased a UTX as my first PCP rifle, and have been impressed by the accuracy within 30 yards. Fortunately, this is the range I had planned for - basically back yard plinking and pest control. Out of the box, nickel sized groups are trivial. Once I got my scope zeroed, I passed it around and my two teenage children were able to duplicate my three shot groups on their first attempts with the rifle. This was with a full tank, which is supposedly not the sweet spot for these rifles.
The trigger mod and filling the stock hollow are next on my list.
I purchased a UTX as my first PCP rifle, and have been impressed by the accuracy within 30 yards. Fortunately, this is the range I had planned for - basically back yard plinking and pest control. Out of the box, nickel sized groups are trivial. Once I got my scope zeroed, I passed it around and my two teenage children were able to duplicate my three shot groups on their first attempts with the rifle. This was with a full tank, which is supposedly not the sweet spot for these rifles.
The trigger mod and filling the stock hollow are next on my list.
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I put some automotive sound deadener in mine. It's a butyl rubber sheet material. I put it on both halves of the stock, in a couple of places. Worked great.
I also swapped the cocking handle to the left side, as it's much better position for right handed shooters. The trigger adjustment was also an easy task. Mine wasn't bad, outta the box, I just did a little fine tuning.
Can't help with the long shot theory. My shooting is a bit closer unfortunately. But it's plenty accurate with the JSB 18.13 (.22 cal.).
My tough spot was putting a shorter silencer on the gun. Getting the original one off...was a pain in the ass. Then I cut almost 4" off of the barrel, putting the silencer right against the stock. If I'd have realized that I was going to do that up front, I wouldn't have bothered removing just the factory silencer..! But even with an adapter and a Donny Tatsu, it's not only much shorter, it's also quieter and shoots fine.
Again, the accuracy, even with a shortened barrel, is just fine. Nickel sized groups of five shots, offhand shooting, at about 17 yrds. I just changed the dot sight yesterday, so I need to redo the sighting-in process for the new sight (Hawke).
Mike
I also swapped the cocking handle to the left side, as it's much better position for right handed shooters. The trigger adjustment was also an easy task. Mine wasn't bad, outta the box, I just did a little fine tuning.
Can't help with the long shot theory. My shooting is a bit closer unfortunately. But it's plenty accurate with the JSB 18.13 (.22 cal.).
My tough spot was putting a shorter silencer on the gun. Getting the original one off...was a pain in the ass. Then I cut almost 4" off of the barrel, putting the silencer right against the stock. If I'd have realized that I was going to do that up front, I wouldn't have bothered removing just the factory silencer..! But even with an adapter and a Donny Tatsu, it's not only much shorter, it's also quieter and shoots fine.
Again, the accuracy, even with a shortened barrel, is just fine. Nickel sized groups of five shots, offhand shooting, at about 17 yrds. I just changed the dot sight yesterday, so I need to redo the sighting-in process for the new sight (Hawke).
Mike
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I think the major difference in between the US model and the French one is the barrel . I wonder why Umarex sells the Reign with a non shrouded barrel and the standard Umarex moderator in the US and differently here in France. Maybe this is due to the price. The Reign in .25 is around 920 € / 1100 $ here in France.
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