Would love to see a picture of one with the original iron sights attached.
HW/Weihrauch Anyone have a marksman model 60?
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Not sure I will have to look. Time to hit the hay, and when the morning comes will look.
Nope all 70's
Nope all 70's
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Thanks.....I have one myself, and am looking for the exact position of where the strange bsf rear sight sat originally on these rifles.
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Thanks mike! That might do it.....you can slide the rear sight all the way up and down the dovetail, was looking for the position it came in when was new. I've seen a couple model 60's before, but NEVER one with the original sights on it like mine.
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A movable rear sight is kind of a neat feature! I'd have to slide it as far forward as it would go, for my old eyeballs to have any chance of focusing on it though.
I assume the "Marksman model 60" is pretty much a pure HW 77? It looks to me as if the back sight is the only ex-BSF bit on it.
I assume the "Marksman model 60" is pretty much a pure HW 77? It looks to me as if the back sight is the only ex-BSF bit on it.
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Yeah only the rear sight and model name is different between the two, but it seems to be a flawed design, as mine has a scope stop screwed on both in front of and behind the sight, indicating it has a real problem with sliding down the rail during use. Which sucks for me, because my rifle is in perfect condition, short of 2 marks on top of the rail from some a hole screwing the stop pins in.
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Well, you know me...I'd ditch the notch sight and put a peep on it! Would be a great fit for what is basically a high-powered match rifle.
How does the sight attach? Does it clamp from the sides or what?
How does the sight attach? Does it clamp from the sides or what?
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I'll post some pictures of it later, but yes it's just a regular dovetail clamp, but with only one clamping screw. I already have another old 77 with the correct beeman peep on it, I actually bought this rifle solely because it has that goofy notch sight on it....they are basically a unicorn sight to find still on the rifle
i think I'll just remove the stop pins from the scope stops they put on, im sure even just the extra clamping force was enough to hold the sight, they just went a little overboard
i think I'll just remove the stop pins from the scope stops they put on, im sure even just the extra clamping force was enough to hold the sight, they just went a little overboard Upvote 0
I would like to see more of this Marksman series and the rest of there product line. I have what I believe are 70 series. One resembles the R11 and the other more like an R1 with coking aid. Both have radiused breech blocks with no tapping for sight fixing.
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You could try a piece of brass shim stock between the screw ends and the receiver to stop any further marring of the finish.
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That's a model 56fts.....I know this because I have its brother, the model 58s. Would love to see a picture of your 56! I've been after one for a very long time.
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The unique Marksman BSF / HW hybrids are fascinating, and IMHO it's high time they were "discovered" by collectors! 
The models 56 and 58 may be the most influential of the bunch; the current HW 98 / R11 combines their best features.
More stuff from the old catalogs...
The models 56 and 58 may be the most influential of the bunch; the current HW 98 / R11 combines their best features.More stuff from the old catalogs...
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Really nice catalogs wish I could find a few for sale. I collect Marksman airguns, as a kid I had a few the air pistols. Recently, I bought a Markman model 40 rifle its a shooter.
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Cool...the model 40 is a version of the original HW 50 design (which was much diff from today's rifle of that name). Note in the catalog pic it has a non-adjustable "Perfekt" trigger, but the next year it, and all the model 55 and 70 variants, acquired the famous "Rekord."
I collect the old HW 50 and its "relatives' (HW 55, Beeman R8, Marksman 40, etc.), and would love to have a model 40 myself!
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Those are, like...GORGEOUS! Thanks for the pics (and please tell us more about that lovely setback trigger on the 58? ).
Another interesting resource on the Marksman model 70 guns is the series of blog posts that Tom Gaylord did. They have some unusual internal details that are quite different from other Weihrauchs - look especially at parts 5 and 6.
).Another interesting resource on the Marksman model 70 guns is the series of blog posts that Tom Gaylord did. They have some unusual internal details that are quite different from other Weihrauchs - look especially at parts 5 and 6.
Marksman model 70 breakbarrel air rifle: Part 6 | Blog | Pyramyd AIR
Oh, boy, have I got one for you today! Thank the Lord that BB is a flawed as he is, because he can tell you the first time and them come back and tell it all over again — the right way!
www.pyramydair.com
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Set back trigger, don't know. Assuming it is oem. To me these 2 are what all others lack, really nice all around and super accurate. Years back spent the better half of afternoon cleaning up a Wasp pan cake. Couple hundred at 10m. and some wounded in the grass. True mini sniping. These stocks are possibly interchangeable.
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