I'm watching tear down videos of the m3 and I have tear down my mk2 many times. They both share similar parts. The only part on the mk2 that I see that can't be upgrade is the 1st reg and quick tune. Others have already upgraded the 72cc pp and hammer wheel. Loking at the tear down video of the m3. It seem like the mk2 trigger housing can be replaced for the m3 trigger housing. So really, if someone want to convert their mk2 to m3 without spending $2100, they can simply buy the trigger housing, 1st reg, and quick tune. And use all other parts from the mk2.
Anyone convert their mk2 to m3?
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The quick tune system requires you to replace the entire block. I think once you add up all the pieces for everything, an M3 is more cost effective. Especially once selling your Mk2 to go towards it.
I have a .30 mk2 that I had Augie install the 720 plenum kit, 16 position power wheel, and a few other doodads, and it was about as close to an M3 as you could get, again without replacing that front block. I guess it depends how badly you want that adjusting system. Does the Allen key micro adjuster bother you enough to replace with an M3?
I have a .30 mk2 that I had Augie install the 720 plenum kit, 16 position power wheel, and a few other doodads, and it was about as close to an M3 as you could get, again without replacing that front block. I guess it depends how badly you want that adjusting system. Does the Allen key micro adjuster bother you enough to replace with an M3?
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From what I can see, you only need to replace the lower half block that house the trigger. Should be able to reuse the slider, cocking block, top half, whole trigger assembly, sliding rod, and rear block, power plenum. If you taken your impact apart, the lower half block comes as 1 single peice. I have to ask fx how much the lower block cost but shouldn't cost an arm and leg just for the lower half trigger block. As for the 1st reg I'm guessing maybe around $100 cause that's usually what reg go for. Its not just the quick tune system I wanted, I also wanted 2 reg system cause it will help with reg creep so I dont have to dry fire 2 to 3 shots before hunting. Huma does sell dual reg for the impact but makes the bottle too long and I didn't like that. You say sell the impact and get the m3 with that money. I've seen folks who spend hundreds extras on their impact upgrades costing them total over 3k, having hard time selling for $1500. So a stock mk2 maybe go less than $1200 im guess and you losing a lot since it was $2100 when came out.
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You’ll see on here that the front reg on these is problematic. So much so that others have just left it wide open and bypassed it. That being said, I suffered ZERO reg creep on my mk2, but I did suffer from the valve sticking for the first couple shots (often mistaken for valve creep). The fix so far (from my research) is to replace the valve seal with a peek replacement for the delrin. Whether this is a long term fix or not, I don’t know, but I haven’t tested it either.
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I've been watching and following ted, Matt, Utah airgun, shooter 1721 etc and they are all now shooting the m3. They have never mentioned anything wrong about the 1st reg. Must be very few folks having issues with that. As for reg creep it is worst when bottle pressure is full or near full cause its fighting back a huge gap in pressure. If that pressure is lower by the first reg then the 2nd reg would only fight back 20-30 bar different and should eliminate reg creep. If I dont have my mk2 I would get the m3. I just don't have the need for 2 impacts so would be nice to simply upgrade the lower trigger block, 1st reg, and quick tune for a few hundred buck vs 2100 for a new gun.
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One of my friends had a problem with the front reg I upgraded both the regs to the brass pistons for him and problem was fixed
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Without trying to sound like I’m arguing with you,
All those YouTubers you mentioned are paid by FX to show off their guns. They would NEVER bring up an issue like reg problems without the fear of being dropped by their sponsor.
Again, I never had reg creep on my mk2. Proven with a digital gauge on the reg. I still had issues with my first shots, and if it’s not reg creep, then it must be the valve. This issue won’t go away on the impact, even with 2 regs. I would read up on the forums and find real world comments on the platform without relying on the FX boys telling you how it is.
P.s. I have nothing against those videos, and watch them all. I just keep it in mind that what they’re telling me might be a little sugar coated.
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The fix for the slower first few shots was discussed in great detail on a thread started by Seeker, and involved Mubhaur and Vetmx. The final and proven fix involved getting rid of the o ring sticktion onto the valve rod that involved the front polyurethane DURO 90 o ring. The fix was to either fabricate and install a peek tapered insert inside the front nose of the front plenum end cap, or to contact Mubhaur and talk to him about the new front end cap piece he designed that simulates the pre power plenum front end caps that did not have the slower first shot problems.
It’s a good read, and if you read the entire thread you can see how the fix evolved.
Learn about it all right here:
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It’s a good read, and if you read the entire thread you can see how the fix evolved.
Learn about it all right here:
Tuning - FX Impact Mk2/M3 - slower first shot - no reg creep - quasi-scientific analysis
Hi guys, Welcome everybody. This is my first post here. I have a problem with my Impact Mk2 PP .30. The reg pressure is 145 bars. When I shoot shot after shot then my v0 is 260m/s. However, when the gun sits for a couple of hours then the first shot is 250m/s despite the exact same reg...
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Yes! I, too swapped in the new brass pistons mainly for a faster plenum recovery and it helped big time
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Why??? For what it's going to cost you for parts, the waiting for back orders and screwing with it to fix the leaks that you caused, just sell your MK2 and buy a new MK3. Life is too short for that aggravation.
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Personally, just me writing out loud, I would make the best your MK2 could possibly be in its MK2 dress clothes. Sure, upgrade your PP, swap in the 16 step power knob, but that’s it. The MK2 is an awesome platform, and any die hard impact owner with total knowledge of that gun knows the MK2 can perform up there with the M3. The issues you’re trying to avoid may more than likely still be there, as the causes lie not with the regulator situation.
The winner of RMAC last year could’ve gone with the latest and the greatest but instead went with his MK2, so that says something
The winner of RMAC last year could’ve gone with the latest and the greatest but instead went with his MK2, so that says something
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Oh man, wasn’t that just an awesome upgrade? I tried the Huma Reg, and although I’m a big fan of their regs in the wildcat MK2 guns along with a few others, I was not fond at all of how it performed on my own impact. I found that I had to count to 12 between shots in order to maintain group consistency. Loosening the reg gage to drain the air completely I didn’t care for either.
The factory AMP reg has done well, but it’s even better with that new piston. I owe all to QBALL for initially making me aware that FX came out with it
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