Anybody have side by side comparison .22 vs .25?

Ben10

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Hi all, does anyone have any target comparisons of .22 vs .25 shooting in the wind?

i hear it a lot on here that .25 bucks the wind better and I don't doubt it for a second but I would be very interested to know how much better the .25 is at bucking the wind. It would be great to see it visually if someone has shot 2 similar guns in the different calibers on the same day, same conditions etc...
 
Thanks for posting the video but it doesn't appear to answer my question, I am after seeing the difference in how the wind affects the two calibers, that video is just a pellet test that happens to be over 2 different calibers. 

Ideally I would love to see someone with 2 known to be accurate guns, and an accurate shooter, shooting them both with the best pellet for the gun, in no wind, light wind and mid-heavy wind. 

If if someone were to aim for bullseye, not wait for wind to die down etc... Just shoot 10 shots or something similar in a steady wind and show how the .22 (should) be more spread out due to wind conditions. Obviously this would be a fairer test if it was repeated a few times over to get an average. 

Unfortunately I don't have a .25 or I would test this myself. I'm just very interested in seeing HOW much difference there is. 
 
I have done testing of two EDgun R3M one in 22 the other in .25. The difference between these two gun's ability to hit targets at range is immense. 



these two guns were shot on the same day with a 12 MPH wind. The problem with desert shooting is the wind is inconsistent. The further you shoot the more you need to read mirage and different points down wind. It is near impossible for the shooter to adjust for every variable. At some point the gun just needs to buck wind. On several different days I tried shooting both guns to see if there was a difference in their ability to cut small wind events What I found was on average I could easily hit a 2 to 2.5 MOA at 200 yards with the .25. The .22 would not hit the 8 inch target with any predictably. This makes the shooter's job impossible. 

Here is the EDgun 25 200 yard target. 



i cannot provide you with a sample from the .22 at 200 yards because I could not get the gun to predictability hit the target so I could dope the wind. The small up drafts and changes in wind direction found in the desert was too much for the .22 at that range. In short the .22 BC is too small and past 150 the wind has it's way with the pellet 

 
Sorry about the broken links seems to happen when I use the mobil site. I have to go on a computer and hit the edit button then the photos pop up. At any rate forget plugging numbers into chairgun. First off the Chairgun program is a very simple ballistic program that does not have enough data fields to give the shooter true trajectory. It's better than nothing but it is still pretty lame.

The .22 is fine out to 50 yards and even 100 yards it will still perform in a predictable drift. The longer ranges when the pellet has slowed down the .22 begins to lose all ability to buck wind. There is no way to use a ballistic program to just "see" how one will perform over the other. The earth is not a consistent place. There are way to many variables to plug in every updraft, down canyon wind or convective rolls that are found in a desert. Trigger time is the only way.

After testing and shooting 1000s of pellets in every caliber I really think the .25 is a good balance of speed, power and accuracy. For hunting I will never buy another .22 rifle. I think the .22 has it's place in the backyard or around farms but when we are talking taking animals at range in the desert or open area the .25 is twice as good.
 
What you are asking for is highly related to the Ballistic Co-efficient http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_coefficient
http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2014/05/ballistic-coefficient-what-is-it-part-1/
http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2015/04/ballistic-coefficient-what-is-it-part-2/
How much drag a pellet has affects how the wind can push it off course.

Here is a list of BC's for various pellets and you can see the BC's for 25's are generally higher than 22 but there are exceptions.

Accuracy however is a separate discussion, you want the pellet to not only buck the wind but get where you want it to go. And that is more of a function based on its shape.

So you would really like to have someone make a video of JSB 22 & 25 and compare them, because a different pellet will have different results. Some 22 pellets will be better than some 25's.