Huben Any issues or problems with Huben gk1 please share your experience

Just realized one if my 2 GK1 spare parts bags has a few K1 orings in it. Couple small ones and a valve o ring.. go figure the o-ring ive been waiting for. Wolfiek said they were out of stock and i said i believe they both use the same 11.6x1.8 o ring. She replied with “i dont think so” ..
One in my bag and other from a K1 spare parts kit i grabbed.

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Just realized one if my 2 GK1 spare parts bags has a few K1 orings in it. Couple small ones and a valve o ring.. go figure the o-ring ive been waiting for. Wolfiek said they were out of stock and i said i believe they both use the same 11.6x1.8 o ring. She replied with “i dont think so” ..
One in my bag and other from a K1 spare parts kit i grabbed.

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Interesting, I don't have such an o-ring in the bags I've seen.
 
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GK1 manual shows brass screw oring (#59) as 4.5x1mm (https://www.hubenairguns.shop/colle...en-spare-parts-for-gk1?variant=47416272224588).

I bought some from oringsandmore.com and they're WAY too big. I end up using a 2.5x1.5mm with sanded down OD to fit. Gun holds air now but the brass doesn't go in all the way because the oring is still a little big. Anyone else run into this?

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There's different ways to measure o-rings. Some places use the OD, others the ID. Take the OEM and place it in the center of the 4.5x1. It seems like it will just fit. Can you confirm that? If you have calipers, or a mm scale, can you estimate the ID of the 4.5x1 o-ring? Is it oh, 4.5mm ID?

So what you need might be a 4.5mm OD, and 1mm CS o-ring, but you ordered a 4.5mm ID x 1mm o-ring. To convert to ID based, that would be
4.5mm OD - 2 o-ring thicknesses (1) = 4.5-2 = 2.5mm ID x 1mm.

The 2.5mm ID x 1.5 is too big, since it's OD is 2.5mm (ID) + 2 o-ring thicknesses (1.5) = 2.5 + 2x1.5 = 5.5mm.

Based on this, I'd say you need to find/buy 2.5mm ID x 1mm o-rings.
Here's a link for some. https://www.oringsandmore.com/fkm-o-ring-2-5-x-1mm-minimum-25-pcs/
 
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There's different ways to measure o-rings. Some places use the OD, others the ID. Take the OEM and place it in the center of the 4.5x1. It seems like it will just fit. Can you confirm that? If you have calipers, or a mm scale, can you estimate the ID of the 4.5x1 o-ring? Is it oh, 4.5mm ID?

So what you need might be a 4.5mm OD, and 1mm ID o-ring, but you ordered a 4.5mm ID x 1mm o-ring. To convert to ID based, that would be
4.5mm OD - 2 o-ring thicknesses (1) = 4.5-2 = 2.5mm ID x 1mm.

The 2.5mm ID x 1.5 is too big, since it's OD is 2.5mm (ID) + 2 o-ring thicknesses (1.5) = 2.5 + 2x1.5 = 5.5mm.

Based on some this, I'd say you need to find/buy 2.5mm ID x 1mm o-rings.
Here's a link for some. https://www.oringsandmore.com/fkm-o-ring-2-5-x-1mm-minimum-25-pcs/

You’re right on the money. Old oring is chewed up but would fit perfectly when new. I forgot china uses OD instead of ID. Same issue with Notos/PP750 orings.

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Where do you get your O-rings for the GK1s in the USA from Oring suppliers? Probably will buy a few dozen just in case..:)
It depends. If I need a bunch of o-rings I'll use the oringstore, or captainoring. Make sure you get a kit, if available, or ensure that you are ordering the correct size! Sometimes I sneak in an item, if I'm ordering from McMaster-Car. Ordering from McMaster means you are getting a bag of 100, so that's practical only for small o-rings, since they're cheap. It's rare to find one place that has what you need.

Another source is from the person who sells the GK1. I'd email Kelly at KrazCool and see if he sells a complete kit. If he doesn't have it, I'd bet he knows where to find them.

One note, the GK1 seems to use NBR80 o-rings in a few places. NBR80 is uncommon. The standard in the US is NBR70 (soft) and NBR90 (hard). Use NBR90 where there's direct contact to the high pressure air, if you can. The NBR70 can extrude and fail.
 
Where do you get your O-rings for the GK1s in the USA from Oring suppliers? Probably will buy a few dozen just in case..:)

Does anyone have a complete o-ring list? About to take this thing apart fix the slow leak, need to order up o-rings just in case some need to be replaced.

Been using them for years now..
 
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Does anyone have a complete o-ring list? About to take this thing apart fix the slow leak, need to order up o-rings just in case some need to be replaced.

Been using them for years now..
Would be great to get a list of O-rings that are most commonly worn out and the rough frequency they are replaced.

Also, if anyone here knows if any sections/parts should be opened up for regular lubrication.
I’m assuming that these are all of the o-rings needed. Check pages 11-18 in the owner’s manual. If these are all of necessary o-rings then it would only take someone about 20-30 minutes to sift through them and compile the listed sizes into a an exclusive o-ring list.

 
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Something like this?
GK1​
Item #​
Desc​
OD x CS​
ID x CS​
#​
PN​
1​
NBR90 o-ring​
17 x 1.5​
14 x 1.5​
1​
#26​
close valve brass housing​
2​
NBR80 o-ring
4.5 x 1.5​
1.5 x 1.5​
1​
#59​
brass insert screw​
3​
NBR90 o-ring​
11.5 x 1.5​
8.5 x 1.5​
2​
#63, #87​
breech seal, pressure tube connector​
4​
NBR90 o-ring​
29.5 x 2​
25.5 x 2​
2​
#84​
Pressure tube​
5​
NBR90 o-ring​
9 x 1.2​
6.6 x 1.2​
1​
#90​
intake valve cover​
6​
NBR80 o-ring
7 x 1.5​
4 x 1.5​
3​
fill probe​
7​
NBR90 o-ring​
11.6 x 1.8​
8 x 1.8​
1​
#4​
opening valve​
8​
NBR90 o-ring​
6.4 x 1.2​
4 x 1.2​
1​
#24​
close valve​
9​
NBR90 o-ring​
4 x 1.5​
1 x 1.5​
1​
#41​
Pressure gauge​
10​
NBR90 o-ring​
4.5 x 1.2​
2.1 x 1.2​
1​
#57​
Air mag index assist pin​
 
Something like this?
GK1​
Item #​
Desc​
OD x CS​
ID x CS​
#​
PN​
1​
NBR90 o-ring​
17 x 1.5​
14 x 1.5​
1​
#26​
close valve brass housing​
2​
NBR80 o-ring
4.5 x 1.5​
1.5 x 1.5​
1​
#59​
brass insert screw​
3​
NBR90 o-ring​
11.5 x 1.5​
8.5 x 1.5​
2​
#63, #87​
breech seal, pressure tube connector​
4​
NBR90 o-ring​
29.5 x 2​
25.5 x 2​
2​
#84​
Pressure tube​
5​
NBR90 o-ring​
9 x 1.2​
6.6 x 1.2​
1​
#90​
intake valve cover​
6​
NBR80 o-ring
7 x 1.5​
4 x 1.5​
3​
fill probe​
7​
NBR90 o-ring​
11.6 x 1.8​
8 x 1.8​
1​
#4​
opening valve​
8​
NBR90 o-ring​
6.4 x 1.2​
4 x 1.2​
1​
#24​
close valve​
9​
NBR90 o-ring​
4 x 1.5​
1 x 1.5​
1​
#41​
Pressure gauge​
10​
NBR90 o-ring​
4.5 x 1.2​
2.1 x 1.2​
1​
#57​
Air mag index assist pin​


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because you had a very steady hand (and mind!) to assemble —
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Something like this?
GK1​
Item #​
Desc​
OD x CS​
ID x CS​
#​
PN​
1​
NBR90 o-ring​
17 x 1.5​
14 x 1.5​
1​
#26​
close valve brass housing​
2​
NBR80 o-ring
4.5 x 1.5​
1.5 x 1.5​
1​
#59​
brass insert screw​
3​
NBR90 o-ring​
11.5 x 1.5​
8.5 x 1.5​
2​
#63, #87​
breech seal, pressure tube connector​
4​
NBR90 o-ring​
29.5 x 2​
25.5 x 2​
2​
#84​
Pressure tube​
5​
NBR90 o-ring​
9 x 1.2​
6.6 x 1.2​
1​
#90​
intake valve cover​
6​
NBR80 o-ring
7 x 1.5​
4 x 1.5​
3​
fill probe​
7​
NBR90 o-ring​
11.6 x 1.8​
8 x 1.8​
1​
#4​
opening valve​
8​
NBR90 o-ring​
6.4 x 1.2​
4 x 1.2​
1​
#24​
close valve​
9​
NBR90 o-ring​
4 x 1.5​
1 x 1.5​
1​
#41​
Pressure gauge​
10​
NBR90 o-ring​
4.5 x 1.2​
2.1 x 1.2​
1​
#57​
Air mag index assist pin​
Hero! Thank you.

Anyone know of one O-ring source that stock all of these for one order? Or do most specialized O-ring suppliers have these?
 
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Not sure why your screen name is WobblyHand... —
because you had a very steady hand (and mind!) to assemble —
for the benefit of ALL of us airgun nuts — this extremely helpful table!! ⭐

THANK YOU! 🫱🏻‍🫲🏼

Matthias
Blush. Wasn't that much work. The first 6 items were on a little scrap of paper that Kelly included with my GK1. (Spare parts bag contents.) So those were easy. Had to go through the manual for the rest of them. Used a calculator to go from OD measurements to ID. ID = OD - 2*CS. Seriously, it took less than 15 minutes.
 
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Hero! Thank you.

Anyone know of one O-ring source that stock all of these for one order? Or do most specialized O-ring suppliers have these?
Haven't found a single source for these. I've had to hunt around. I know McMaster had the probe o-rings (in NBR90). Let me tell you stretching NBR90 o-rings onto the probe is REALLY hard. Most folks would give up and use NBR70. NBR70 will not last as long as they will tend to extrude under high pressure.

Made an o-ring tool to install the NBR90's on the probe. Basically a "witch hat", or a tapered bit of metal, which you have to lube the o-ring AND push it to stretch it enough to make it over the probe. I do it on my lathe, so I don't run out of hands to hold things. NBR70 and the stock NBR80 ought to be a lot easier. So far I have not found any NBR80, especially the 4mm (ID) x 1.5 for the probe. However, I did find some at McMaster in Viton NBR75, which should be more resistant to extrusion than NBR70. Still need to improve my probe o-ring tool, still difficult for me to use.
 
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