Another new rifle on the way

But I won't be as coy as BobO. Since "a picture is worth a thousand words", if this doesn't speak to you, I'll save my breath. It shipped yesterday.

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Considering I just turned 65, this might as well be a buxom red-head! But a WHOLE lot cheaper...
 
airngasman you ordered the 22 cal correct? I would truly appreciate it if you did a quick review and brutally honest report on your gun asap after you get it. I finally got the money together and i can order a new gun now and that is what im seriously looking at. This may be my last airgun purchase for a while so i do not want to make a mistake. Not sure if i should get 177 or 22 though as I might want to try FT in the future. (Do you HAVE to use 177 for FT?) 
 
You don't have to use .177 in field target Critta, just have to stay under 20 foot-pounds of muzzle energy (12 FP in WFTF division). My opinion is calibers larger than .177 are a handicap due to less-flat trajectories (to stay within power limits), and larger calibers being harder to SWISH through kill zones to drop the targets. As taken from my book,Airgun Chronicles- Thirty Years Of Airgun Testing and Competition -

"As for caliber, .177 offers several advantages. A 3/8” kill-zone allows only 1/10” margin-of-error in any direction with a .177, a .0875” margin-of-error with a .20 caliber, and just .078” margin-of-error with a .22. At 15 yards, these figures translate into a 1.4 minute-of-angle shot with a .177, a 1.24 MOA shot with a .20 caliber, and a 1.1 MOA shot with a .22. Though the advantage of .177 is less pronounced with larger kill-zones, the advantage is measurable and tangible on any target at any distance. All field target shooters lose points to edge hits that the shooter believes (wishes) should have dropped the target. Such zeroes with a .22 would have been points on the score-card with a .177."
 
But I won't be as coy as BobO. Since "a picture is worth a thousand words", if this doesn't speak to you, I'll save my breath. It shipped yesterday.

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Considering I just turned 65, this might as well be a buxom red-head! But a WHOLE lot cheaper...

AnG... just which Bantam did you get? That looks like the Bantam Hi-Lite (non-reg version). Did you go .177? Curious novice is eager to know! ;-)
 
I got the very one pictured, DH; a .22 Bantam HiLite. She's supposed to arrive tomorrow. 

Having had more than a few issues with regulated guns, the Sling-shot hammer/valve system makes all kind of sense to me. And not being into synthetic stocks or 'black rifle' looks, I also consider the new regulated version (Sniper) downright ugly.

If she shoots a good as she looks, the Bantam should handle pretty much all air rifle chores falling between my .177 RAW TM1000 field target competition rifle and my .25 Kalibrgun Cricket bull-pup Benchrest-Silhouette competition/long-range hunting hammer. If so, the Bantam will get more use than any other airgun I own.
 
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My .22 Bantam HiLite arrived late yesterday PM, beautiful as I'd hoped. Shot just a few pellets to insure she was functioning correctly before cleaning the bore well. Chronographed her with the pellets I hope to use, 16 grain Air Arms and 18.1 grain JSBs to find she's 1-2 foot-pounds below spec at 848 FPS/ 28.9 FP with the 18.1s and 891 FPS/ 28.2 FP with 16s. No surprise with a brand-new PCP, and expect power to come up with break-in. She also didn't exhibit as flat shot-string-bell-curve as specs, but given the purely mechanical nature of the Sling-shot hammer/valve system I'm not alarmed, and hope that also improves with break-in. 

The trigger-action was heavier than expected and had a glitch after the first stage and before second stage release. Figured that might go away with break-in. With just over 100 rounds through the new gun, the glitch is almost gone ant the trigger action has improved considerabbly.

After mounting a Weaver V-16 (my favorite rifle scope), I started accuracy testing with 18.1 JSBs that are not a good batch (nappy-looking skirts). Five consecutive five-shot groups at 50 yards averaged .69" c-t-c in light winds. Not bad, but nothing to get excited about.

By then it was dark-thirty but I couldn't wait to try the 16 grain AAs. First two groups were similar to those with 18.1grain JSBs at .62" and .73" c-t-c, but then the little gun seemed to just find its form and started stacking pellets one on another. One of the few times I've felt an airgun was shooting fully to my abilities, the last 4 five-shot groups at 50 yards measured .41", .32", .46" and .45" for a .41" four-group average, and a six-group average with 16 grain AAs of exactly .50" c-t-c. That puts this rifle among the most accurate I've tested in 30+ years of accuracy testing over 400 airguns... and she's still breaking in! Yes, I am happy.

But I'll be happier when/if power and consistency comes up to specs with break-in, and the trigger lives up to the "adjustable match grade" spec. I believe that's all somewhere between possible and likely.

Did all shooting so far with no moderator, other than the first 3 shots to see how quiet she was with the Weihrauch mod they sent instead of the Airstream mod I ordered. 'Interesting' that they sent the Weihrauch mod after trying to switch me to it, even though I interrupted the salesman with, "No' I'm not interested in the Weihrauch; I want the Airstream", and the invoice showed the Airstream. Called the dealer today, and they've already Priority mailed an Airstream with a pre-paid shipping label to return the Weihrauch I specifically did not order.

OOPS, almost forgot. Couldn't stand to not shoot her at all today, so despite very gusty winds shot a ten-shot group at 50 yards with 16 grain AA's that measured .74" c-t-c.
 
Congrats, glad to hear the gun arrived and thanks for the writeup. Lothar Walther barrel, right? I'm not surprised those 16gr AA's perform so well, my .22 huntsman shoots better with those than anything I've tried so far. Very similar on fps also. LW barrel, slingshot hammer and 480cc bottle sounds like a winner. Seems like a lot of gun for the money. How's the cocking effort on it?


 
AnGman, I just picked up a like new used hi lite. 22 beech and it is definitely at the top of my favorites list. I've only had mine a week and was told it only had a couple hundred shots thru it by the original owner. I've probably put 500 thru it and it has settled in very nice.

Last nite I ran a string on high power with the 16 gr JSB and on a 250 bar fill, I got 60 shots from 904 -926-900 and then 10 more from 900 to 884. Ending fill was 150 bar after 70 shots. 

My trigger also had a slight dragging feel to it and was about 3 lbs, but I adjusted it down to 1 1/2 and it is now very smooth and breaks cleanly.

Btw, 18 gr were around 890 on high but it seems to prefer the 16 gr by a hair.

It also shoots crosman 14.3 ultra mags on low around 840 and they are plenty accurate for bird pesting.

Love the gun.
 
Great information Randy, and very similar to my experiences. Thanks! I've been able to shoot mine a bit more now, so have some updates.

A second attempt to duplicate the excellent 50 yard results with 16 grain AAs didn't, probably due to some cross-winds. But I've now shot enough 100 yard (five-shot) groups to find the 18.1s do better at 100 than the 16s. All in still wind conditions, I got nice symmetrical groups with less fliers with 18.1s than the less-symmetrical groups with more and wider fliers with the 16s. Mind you, though my trigger glitch is gone, it's still breaking heavier than conducive to fine hundred-yard work. I'll adjust it after a couple hundred more rounds, so it's good to hear you got your's down to a livable 1.5 pounds. Also, though I consider 100 yards to be stretching a 30 foot-pound .22 to the edge of reality, it does provide some insight(s) into capabilities. Oh... almost forgot; the 16s and 18.1s shot VERY close to the same points-of-impact as one-another at both 50 yards and 100. 

Mine seemed to NEED some breaking in, but also seems to be doing so quite nicely. Thanks again, Bud.