Altaros Advance Version

[keithd]

Okay, I am thinking of changing my setup from nitrogen 6000psi to compressor and Altaros ADVANCE VERSION. I own a machine shop and run twin (screw compressors) producing 218cfm @ 120psi with (3) 200 gallon tanks fed thru an air dryer. I will be filling a 66cf 4500psi Scott tank and a Benjamin 4500psi 90ci tank. Normally my portable tanks are topped off before they get to 2000 psi. I sort of cascade the tanks.

Since my compressors are running 16 hours a day, I thought why not use a little air for the booster and fill my tanks while I work. Any thoughts on this idea would be welcomed.

 

[Chickenthief]

You'll love the B2B system and it's ability to suck you'r supply bottle down below 100psi.

With unlimited air it will be clack, clack, clack and over in mere minutes.

What's not to like ;-)



My Altaros booster has passed 150 hours and is on original O-rings and gaskets. No issues at all.

 

[keithd]

You'll love the B2B system and it's ability to suck you'r supply bottle down below 100psi.

With unlimited air it will be clack, clack, clack and over in mere minutes.

What's not to like ;-)



My Altaros booster has passed 150 hours and is on original O-rings and gaskets. No issues at all.

Does the B2B allow the regular use of compressor as well?

 

[Chickenthief]

Yes it regulates feed bottle down to 10bar~150psi and feeds it into the LP piston and from there to the HP piston.

All work is done with shop air.

So Helium, Nitrogen or stored air is boosted past 300bar~4500psi using shop air only for work.

 

[keithd]

Sounds like just what I am looking for.

I emailed them and messaged here on forum for price of B2B

 

[Chickenthief]

I was over them like a pack of stray dogs over a three legged cat when they announced the B2B kit.

Ondre at Altaros promished me that they would sort out a price asap.

I will forward this thread and urge him to speed up things ;-)

 

[keithd]

Thanks!

 

[SorenDrost]

When running the regular Altaros Booster, what kind of compressor would you guys recommend ??? 

 

[toftime]

Where do you buy one in the USA

 

[bubblerboy64]

You guys do know that some of us have no idea what you are talking about? Many pictures and some explanation of what you are doing. Or planning to do.

 

[keithd]

I believe you have to order overseas and shipped here. Still waiting on B2B info 

 

[rkmcvey]

Why not use the Altaros to fill the nitrogen tank with air. I know it won't be nitrogen, but you would have a much bigger tank for air storage. How high will the Altaros go Psi wise? Even 4500 Psi would leave you with a much higher volume of HPA. If you can squeeze higher Psi out of the booster, (pun intended) say 5K or higher, all the better.

 

[keithd]

I will have to see how long the b2b could stretch the nitrogen tank. Nitrogen tank, it is $65 a year here for tank and $75 for nitrogen fill. So it may be worth it I will have to see. But also with the dry air I have available it may be worth just getting another 66cf tank instead.

 

[keithd]

You guys do know that some of us have no idea what you are talking about? Many pictures and some explanation of what you are doing. Or planning to do.

https://youtu.be/5KMzMiWrCgk

 

[Chickenthief]

The inner workings of a booster:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVcZmZXEFhY&feature=emb_logo



Scroll down the page and you will see all sorts of videos of a booster working: https://www.altaros.cz/en/compressors/57-altaros-compressor-booster-unit-sheet-metal-cover.html



Here is a full explanation of how a booster works: https://www.mekanizmalar.com/pressure-booster-double-acting-two-stage.html

 

[keithd]

I asked if the B2B could be used as the advanced model if so desired and his response is below. So I will be ordering the advanced model and maybe convert later.

"Hello,

unfortunately no The B2B version is purely designed to pressurize from one bottle to another. It cannot pressurize the bottle itself only from the workshop compressor, as it has only high pressure pistons, no medium pressure piston.

With best regards / S Pozdravem

Ondrej Plachy"

 

[keithd]

Ondrej, recommends with my setup to order the Advanced version as opposed to the b2b. So that is what I will do.

 

[Chickenthief]

Oh didnt know that! That B2B thing is so new i have no details.

The standard version can be converted to run from a shop compressor for work air and then the LP piston fed a regulated 10bar~150psi from your preferred gas bottle (you can go a smidgen higher to shorten pump time ;-) ). They will sort you out for optimum design as per your request.

 

[keithd]

Oh didnt know that! That B2B thing is so new i have no details.

The standard version can be converted to run from a shop compressor for work air and then the LP piston fed a regulated 10bar~150psi from your preferred gas bottle (you can go a smidgen higher to shorten pump time ;-) ). They will sort you out for optimum design as per your request.

He said they are working on a backward compatible kit for the standard units. The B2B is missing the mid-pressure piston.

I just ordered the Altaros Advance Version from their web site that I posted on another thread and somehow it messed up. So I ordered again and again it said something went wrong yet now I am charged with two orders. I sure they will straighten it out.

 

[Chickenthief]

Good folks, and they'll have your back no worries!!!

I'we never dealt with nicer guys period.
They will bend backover to accomodate your requests and ansver your questions.



And no! Sadly i do not make a cent for my nice sayings about Altaros in ainything i say.This is plainly a fine and decent company that stands behind their pruducts.