Just wanted to share this video for new shooters on expectations vs costs on accuracy with air rifles.
Airgun Accuracy Vs Cost Video...
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For me accuracy is 0 deviation in where the shot land, so hole in hole with only minute ragging of edges, but thats almost impossible to do with anything.
Then come the what you get accuracy, here if holes just touch each other its not half bad, or you shoot a hole that in the end are 4-5-6 X the size of the caliber you shoot, and most often that hole are not round, i am myself sort of a expert shooting horizontal lines some days. ( i think thats the wind )
I find the longer i shoot, the less demanding i am regarding accuracy, CUZ then i feel that every shot i make is on the 2" paper / target, and thats after all 75 - 80 M away, and even out there some times you still get holes touching which for me is even more exiting than doing the same at 50 M.
Some of the best stuff is just having started on a new target and then shooting your #2 shot and nothing happen down there, and you know that slug just went thru the same hole you just did before, and thats is nice CUZ you aimed for the same place with both shots, so even if they land 1/2" or so offset from the cross hairs it is for me still a big YES moment, which often prompt me to lean back with a big smile on my face.
Main thing for me is that shooting relaxes me as it allow me to go to my zone and stay there.
Then come the what you get accuracy, here if holes just touch each other its not half bad, or you shoot a hole that in the end are 4-5-6 X the size of the caliber you shoot, and most often that hole are not round, i am myself sort of a expert shooting horizontal lines some days. ( i think thats the wind )
I find the longer i shoot, the less demanding i am regarding accuracy, CUZ then i feel that every shot i make is on the 2" paper / target, and thats after all 75 - 80 M away, and even out there some times you still get holes touching which for me is even more exiting than doing the same at 50 M.
Some of the best stuff is just having started on a new target and then shooting your #2 shot and nothing happen down there, and you know that slug just went thru the same hole you just did before, and thats is nice CUZ you aimed for the same place with both shots, so even if they land 1/2" or so offset from the cross hairs it is for me still a big YES moment, which often prompt me to lean back with a big smile on my face.
Main thing for me is that shooting relaxes me as it allow me to go to my zone and stay there.
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Yep, I know the feeling. Kind of fun shooting at a target and not seeing it flinch or move, just goes right on through.
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My two favorite rifles... A Benjamin Marauder I have a Helix scope on... And my Impact m3 setup that good lord... Who knows what into (4k++?).
At 50-70yards... The Marauder makes you feel silly for the investment into the FX. The FX is better.. but not A TON (but it certainly cost me a ton more).
But when I'm laying in a field shooting prairie dogs out at 165y.... The investment of time and money into the impact really shows it's worth. And that's what I enjoy spending most my time doing. Shooting at targets way out there.
At 50-70yards... The Marauder makes you feel silly for the investment into the FX. The FX is better.. but not A TON (but it certainly cost me a ton more).
But when I'm laying in a field shooting prairie dogs out at 165y.... The investment of time and money into the impact really shows it's worth. And that's what I enjoy spending most my time doing. Shooting at targets way out there.
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Like with so many things, with increasing investment you get diminishing return.
Like me i would never buy a super or hyper sports car due to that as i do not count appearance in that way, but i would buy a 15 ton huge APC costing the same if not more and feel real good.
And i can guarantee you that if you put me in a very fine / very expensive suit, i will feel the most uncomfortable i have ever felt in any form of clothe.
I might look like a million dollars as i am after all a fine old gentleman, but i would feel like "poop" as that is not at all like i see myself, i like to sell myself on my skill and deeds, not the mere look.
And i can be nice in a pair of jeans i have been wearing since last week,and old dusty snickers i really should have thrown out last year.
All of my 3 airguns have been in the higher end of the price range, the Cyclone i got in 2012 cost the same back then as i paid for my Maverick, and my latest one the Vulcan 3, well it was not much cheaper.
So i wouldn't know a good cheap PCP unless it dropped on my head, with a note from the top brass up there saying " this is it"
Like me i would never buy a super or hyper sports car due to that as i do not count appearance in that way, but i would buy a 15 ton huge APC costing the same if not more and feel real good.
And i can guarantee you that if you put me in a very fine / very expensive suit, i will feel the most uncomfortable i have ever felt in any form of clothe.
I might look like a million dollars as i am after all a fine old gentleman, but i would feel like "poop" as that is not at all like i see myself, i like to sell myself on my skill and deeds, not the mere look.
And i can be nice in a pair of jeans i have been wearing since last week,and old dusty snickers i really should have thrown out last year.
All of my 3 airguns have been in the higher end of the price range, the Cyclone i got in 2012 cost the same back then as i paid for my Maverick, and my latest one the Vulcan 3, well it was not much cheaper.
So i wouldn't know a good cheap PCP unless it dropped on my head, with a note from the top brass up there saying " this is it"
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My findings are that the two variables are not always directly proportional. I think quality and shooting experience are much more directly proportional than accuracy. I have had 350-400 dollar guns that are every bit as accurate and consistent as guns costing twice that.
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My “gold standard” for all the guns I sell, mostly used then buffed up and tuned, mostly .22 with 18.1 JSB, is five shots inside a dime at 50 yards. Every gun I’ve sold over the past four years (about 35) will do that.
If I buy a used FX Streamline or Daystate Renegade, replace orings, polish the barrel, tune for about 880 fps, I know they’ll meet my standards. Every single one of them have met that standard, including some Crickets. That’s with me shooting, some of the buyers weren’t at that level, but I always deliver the gun and shoot with them for an hour or so and they see the gun’s potential.
The most recent one was a .22 Streamline with refinished Walnut stock. I was shooting at 53 yards at a sheet I printed with 1/4” circles. The buyer came up and asked what I was shooting, and I pointed to the target. You could tell he was thinking “yeah, right”. I handed him the binos and shot five in a row. He needed to scrape his jaw and off ground since he’d HEARD about modern Airgun accuracy but had never actually SEEN it.
So that’s my pocket definition of accuracy. Most of the used guns were from $600 to $900 when I bought them.
If I buy a used FX Streamline or Daystate Renegade, replace orings, polish the barrel, tune for about 880 fps, I know they’ll meet my standards. Every single one of them have met that standard, including some Crickets. That’s with me shooting, some of the buyers weren’t at that level, but I always deliver the gun and shoot with them for an hour or so and they see the gun’s potential.
The most recent one was a .22 Streamline with refinished Walnut stock. I was shooting at 53 yards at a sheet I printed with 1/4” circles. The buyer came up and asked what I was shooting, and I pointed to the target. You could tell he was thinking “yeah, right”. I handed him the binos and shot five in a row. He needed to scrape his jaw and off ground since he’d HEARD about modern Airgun accuracy but had never actually SEEN it.
So that’s my pocket definition of accuracy. Most of the used guns were from $600 to $900 when I bought them.
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Yea, there are so many elements in picking an air rifle. You know I was wanting to make a video on just that the experience, durability, maintenance and a bunch of other items really go into what you want to shoot.
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Dang very nice my man... Yea, that is some very good shooting better than 90% of peoples capabilities yet for a decent price tag in comparison....My “gold standard” for all the guns I sell, mostly used then buffed up and tuned, mostly .22 with 18.1 JSB, is five shots inside a dime at 50 yards. Every gun I’ve sold over the past four years (about 35) will do that.
If I buy a used FX Streamline or Daystate Renegade, replace orings, polish the barrel, tune for about 880 fps, I know they’ll meet my standards. Every single one of them have met that standard, including some Crickets. That’s with me shooting, some of the buyers weren’t at that level, but I always deliver the gun and shoot with them for an hour or so and they see the gun’s potential.
The most recent one was a .22 Streamline with refinished Walnut stock. I was shooting at 53 yards at a sheet I printed with 1/4” circles. The buyer came up and asked what I was shooting, and I pointed to the target. You could tell he was thinking “yeah, right”. I handed him the binos and shot five in a row. He needed to scrape his jaw and off ground since he’d HEARD about modern Airgun accuracy but had never actually SEEN it.
So that’s my pocket definition of accuracy. Most of the used guns were from $600 to $900 when I bought them.
Thanks again for sharing... Jdog
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Yeah, I've gotten quite a few into airguns over the past four years. I can tell some guys out where I shoot and sell the guns think I'm full of sh!t when I talk about accuracy out to 100 yards. Lately the past six months, I haven't been killing the squirrels I shoot, since the valley that I shoot in I have decimated the ground squirrel population. So now, I just shoot one ear off the squirrel. Every now and then I see one that I've "marked". Hopefully the population comes back over the next couple of years...
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