AirForce Escape .25 Caliber

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sticman77 That looks like a really nice rifle. I also like the idea of simplicity for ease of use and service. I have other rifles that have required my engineering degree to take apart..lol

So the altaris reg does fit on the Escape then? I had it in my cart but then was readying that the Escape has a different thread than all the other AF line. Did you have to buy anything else to get it to fit? Also do you have a link for the extended plenum that your talking about?
 
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Stickman, have you seen the drop down bottle adapter? I think Talon Tunes has those. It keeps you from having to jack up your scope on the Airforce guns.
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thank you, i have seen it but chose not to use one. for the price, and additional weight (i love trying to get guns as light as i can), i would rather deal with a higher scope.

these guys also have one that is... not so elegant: https://www.pcptunes.com/airforce-larger-tank-angled-adapter.html 

these guys have a 23cc regulator z valve, that i may try out too:

https://hubenpower.com/ 
 
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sticman77 That looks like a really nice rifle. I also like the idea of simplicity for ease of use and service. I have other rifles that have required my engineering degree to take apart..lol

So the altaris reg does fit on the Escape then? I had it in my cart but then was readying that the Escape has a different thread than all the other AF line. Did you have to buy anything else to get it to fit? Also do you have a link for the extended plenum that your talking about?
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it will NOT fit the escape bottle. i bought a talon tunes 580cc CF bottle, which makes the LOP very long lol. you will need to buy either a thread adapter, or an m18 threaded bottle with the regulator.



https://www.altaros.cz/en/airforce/107-extra-airchamber-for-high-power.html this is the extra 14cc plenum
 
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sticman77 That looks like a really nice rifle. I also like the idea of simplicity for ease of use and service. I have other rifles that have required my engineering degree to take apart..lol

So the altaris reg does fit on the Escape then? I had it in my cart but then was readying that the Escape has a different thread than all the other AF line. Did you have to buy anything else to get it to fit? Also do you have a link for the extended plenum that your talking about?
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it will NOT fit the escape bottle. i bought a talon tunes 580cc CF bottle, which makes the LOP very long lol. you will need to buy either a thread adapter, or an m18 threaded bottle with the regulator.



https://www.altaros.cz/en/airforce/107-extra-airchamber-for-high-power.html this is the extra 14cc plenum
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Im glad I took it out of my cart then. I just looked around on the Altaros site and found that they make an Escape regulator that can just go right on the stock bottle. Thats very cool and good to know. Thanks for the info. I might be ordering one with the power plenum in the future. 
 
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sticman77 That looks like a really nice rifle. I also like the idea of simplicity for ease of use and service. I have other rifles that have required my engineering degree to take apart..lol

So the altaris reg does fit on the Escape then? I had it in my cart but then was readying that the Escape has a different thread than all the other AF line. Did you have to buy anything else to get it to fit? Also do you have a link for the extended plenum that your talking about?
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it will NOT fit the escape bottle. i bought a talon tunes 580cc CF bottle, which makes the LOP very long lol. you will need to buy either a thread adapter, or an m18 threaded bottle with the regulator.



https://www.altaros.cz/en/airforce/107-extra-airchamber-for-high-power.html this is the extra 14cc plenum
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Im glad I took it out of my cart then. I just looked around on the Altaros site and found that they make an Escape regulator that can just go right on the stock bottle. Thats very cool and good to know. Thanks for the info. I might be ordering one with the power plenum in the future.
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i would still e-mail altaros before hand and ask them the thread size. they may not know the escape and talonp have a different thread:

https://www.altaros.cz/en/airforce/74-5949-airforce-escape-airgun-regulator.html#/62-awpdetails-

"This regulator can be installed in most airguns which use standard airtank with thread M 18x1,5."
 
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I LOVE my AF Condor. I have modded the CRAP out of it. But I'm still using the stock frame, trigger, and valve assembly. But this gun is a beast! I have an after market regulator on it from PCP Tunes that really helps the gun out with accuracy and efficiency. It took a while to find the right slug for the gun, but once I did, it's a pleasure to shoot. Do I wish it had a multi shot magazine? Yes. Yes I do.

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@TrinityMaker - is that the v3 pcptunes regulator?

for slugs, Raden here was getting good results with jsb ko in .25

i inquired to NSA, and nick also said that .217's are most popular / best results for condors.



if anyone else is using the altaros regulator, i inquired to altaros about max fill pressure. sorry to spam this info in multiple threads, just think it will be useful:

from altaros - "

real operation pressure should be fine on 280bar .300bar is generally not recommended as it eliminates O-rings significantly faster on the whole airtank assembly, not only on the regulator.

Our long term test was on 250 bar. We did not have long term tests for 300 bar.
Some customers using this regulator on 290 bar , so far no one reported anything wrong."
 
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I love the MadDog rifle stock. It moves the strain from using the bottle as a shoulder rest to the stock, and it eliminates any inaccuracy issues that result from the flex at the frame where the bottle and the valve assembly meet.

As fas as the regulator goes, the PCP Tunes V3 or the PCP Tunes Texan reg are the best for the Condor. If you're shooting a big bore version, I'd go with the Texan reg (i.e .257 to .357). Don't bother trying to regulate anything bigger. You'll be robbed of power. But the plenum on the Texan reg is huge. The V3 reg is more for smaller caliber AF platforms, but as it's name indicates, it's the 3rd version of the original. It has a larger plenum than the original reg, and it has a CRAZY washer Belleville washer stack that has very tight tolerance and is highly adjustable. It can handle 300 BAR fill pressure at the bottle, and can be adjusted to 250 BAR on the regulator side. I have mine set at 210 BAR, and I'm pushing 38gr .254 AVS slugs at 965-973 fps (about 80 FPE). I have a custom barrel on my rifle however. It's a un-choked Russian Republic barrel that is .247/.252 land/groove diameter with a 1:15 twist.

Regarding what slug shoots best, that will vary from gun to gun, even 2 identical guns. The barrel either likes a slug, or it hates it. When shooting a slug from your rifle for the first time, you're going to need to buy some sample packs from different manufacturers. So if you're using the stock Condor LW barrel, it's got a twist of 1:17.7 and a land/groove diameter of .248/.254. I use the 38gr cup base slug from AVS slugs in .254 diameter. My barrel loves them. But I spent a lot of money with sample packs trying to find the slug the barrel likes. I particularly like AVS slugs because of the larger diameter size that concentrically seals the grooves of my barrel. If you're interested in AVS slugs, and you're shooting a .25 rifle, I would recommend a sample pack of .2503 and .254. I'd recommend ordering cup base in all weights 30gr, up to 48. Might cost you $80-$100, but well worth it.
 
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Yeah I looked around and it seemed everyone was out of stock. Talon tunes had them in stock though but I ordered mine on the 31st and had them add the quick change tophat. I talked to Tony and he was totally swamped but is hoping to get it done and out Monday.

I'm super excited. I got a trigger spring heavy hammer with also mod and a Condor moderator. This thing should be a silent beast. 
 
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Yeah I looked around and it seemed everyone was out of stock. Talon tunes had them in stock though but I ordered mine on the 31st and had them add the quick change tophat. I talked to Tony and he was totally swamped but is hoping to get it done and out Monday.

I'm super excited. I got a trigger spring heavy hammer with also mod and a Condor moderator. This thing should be a silent beast.
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hope you have some other things to shoot while you wait, sounds like you'll get a rig ready to go

if anyone is looking for somewhere else to buy, i ordered from RL in October, and they shipped a day or two later. got it in under a week https://www.rlairgunsupply.com/

i always call before i order to ensure things are in stock
 
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