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HW/Weihrauch Air Venturi Tune-In-A-Tube Airgun Lubricant
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Works well on springs. Use it in my guns frequently. 6-8 strands on the spring and spread to cover evenly. Typically I wear gloves when applying it. But works well to take out the buzz in a lot of guns.
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From what I'm told it's the same stuff as Almagard 3752. Its red and very sticky. I purchased a sleeve of the Almagard 3752 and played with it. I don't use tar because it's a pita to work with and makes the gun very temperature sensitive. I've had guns sent to me that were "Lube tuned" with tar and other lubes. Often the lube doesn't stay put and slings on the compression tube walls, overloading the piston seal's wiping abilities. The ensuing dieseling often burns out the piston seal in time.
My experience and tests with the Almagard showed it did quell the last hints of twang in the test gun initially. The velocities dropped as the extra lube slowed the gun. In time the velocities and twang returned and the gun started to diesel as it burned off the slung out grease.
I started using the Almagard sparingly like I do other lubes and it is an excellent lubricant but like the tar, it is very temp sensitive. I've decided to stay with the more viscous tan lube Vortek used to supply in their kits. I've never had a problem with it when used in moderation. I also use Krytox occasionally on guns with compromised compression tubes to eliminate excessive dieseling.
In short twang should be controlled with a set of proper sized spring guides and lubricant should be kept to lubrication purposes. Typically less is more. I'm constantly getting "tuned" guns with tons of grease and burnt out piston seals. Also fwiw excessive dieseling also shortens spring life.
This is my experience YMMV
My experience and tests with the Almagard showed it did quell the last hints of twang in the test gun initially. The velocities dropped as the extra lube slowed the gun. In time the velocities and twang returned and the gun started to diesel as it burned off the slung out grease.
I started using the Almagard sparingly like I do other lubes and it is an excellent lubricant but like the tar, it is very temp sensitive. I've decided to stay with the more viscous tan lube Vortek used to supply in their kits. I've never had a problem with it when used in moderation. I also use Krytox occasionally on guns with compromised compression tubes to eliminate excessive dieseling.
In short twang should be controlled with a set of proper sized spring guides and lubricant should be kept to lubrication purposes. Typically less is more. I'm constantly getting "tuned" guns with tons of grease and burnt out piston seals. Also fwiw excessive dieseling also shortens spring life.
This is my experience YMMV
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Ya, not like you cant do that and test it around then decide on somthing else.. maybe give you a better idea on what really needs to be done . Just a good clean and lube can do wonders.
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How's the piston seal? The kit helps remove buzz but does not really improve accuracy. It just makes it nicer to shoot. I'd say at the least, if it's a synthetic seal gun put a fresh Vortek vac seal (piston seal). I've got no tips on rejuvenating leather seals. That's Mike Driskill territory.
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HW35 deserves better than tune in a tube crap. Take it apart and do it right, it's a HW35 not some cheap gamo.
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i always thought that--Tune In A Tube--looked like--Red N Tacky--
and at one point there was an old poster on the Yellow that used the Red all the time
for those who think the red grease is nonsense you might want to read this about a third of the page down
if Tom says it good i tend to believe him
https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2022/05/the-tools-you-need-lubricants-part-three/
and at one point there was an old poster on the Yellow that used the Red all the time
for those who think the red grease is nonsense you might want to read this about a third of the page down
if Tom says it good i tend to believe him
https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2022/05/the-tools-you-need-lubricants-part-three/
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You remember that time Ole Godfather Tom squirted a new FWB Sport full of gear oil?
I do.
Follow blindly I guess..
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Yes but he doesn't elaborate on his testing and its correct usage. He's mostly going by hearsay. As much as I admire Tom Gaylord, I've tested the Almagard 3752 extensively and have had the joy of fixing several "Lube Tuned" rifles. Just because something has been done that way by lots of people for a long time doesn't mean it can't be improved. "Lube Tuning" is an old hack that no professional tuner does anymore.
Don't get me wrong lube tuning will quell spring noise but it will be temporary at best and likely lead to parts eating dieseling. If you only shoot a tin a pellets a year through the gun, it will last you a few years. If you shoot a tin a week it won't last half a year before twang comes back and is dieseling.
Do it right if you gonna do it.
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Heck just slather the spring with copper anti seize.. youll neve look at that $15 .05 oz moly paste again .
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Ya know, im a thinking next go round im trying out my own mix. , A non metallic or synthetic antisize and moly powder . Either blend together or burnish in the powder and slather on the antiseize paste.
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Like Beeman used to do?Heck just slather the spring with copper anti seize.. youll neve look at that $15 .05 oz moly paste again .
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the gun shoots great , power is perfect ,it is just a noisy spring , still i guess a take apart and cleaning is the best idea .
a first for me to do .
a first for me to do .
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I think it don't hurt to go in and clean and freshen up the guts periodically.. i think after a certain amount of duty time + any dirt/ dust works up under the stock and in the tube area the libe collects that and get a little broke down.
Kinda like a changing your oil in the car thing.
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Yup, or even here
"Mainspring got a thin coat of copper anti-seize/Beeman Laser lube."
http://anotherairgunblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/finishing-up-marksman-mod-70.html?m=1
Works great
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