Has anybody had any experience with the avenger and hand pumping? How hand pump friendly is it? What is the realistic psi are you going to get hand pumping the rifle? Or any other hand pumping advice you can give for this rifle. And thank you for taking the time reading this.
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It is as friendly as any other gun without a bottle..Shot 25 rounds the pump 50 pumps. Its really not bad and 22 cal is even better.I have 25 cal.
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My only complaint is my rifle doesn't hold air. So after 24hrs, the air reservoir is completely empty and the poppet occasionally needs to be reseated. It might be worth doing a long term leak check at some point. I have a 4 stage 400 bar hand pump, and it is some effort, but I can pump it to 250bar if I need that much air. How hand pump friendly it is comes down to careful tuning. You can get 50 good hunting shots with good tuning, or 15-20 shots with poor tuning.
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That is a normal issue that plagued it's Nova Liberty predessor. Replacement OEM factory parts may have similar issues since its the same part and material. I am waiting for a gen2 Avenger to purchase with that valve and poppet issue already addessed and made heavy duty. Rather surprising the factory would set the reg really high to start.
If I had the current Avenger I would back the regulator down to it's minimum and shoot lowest velocity possible within reason to extend its trouble free life but that's just me knowing what may happen cranking it up which in turn may be drastically shortening it's life by a lot hammering and squashing the valve poppet. I would also only fill it to 3000psi max. Just to be proactive and not wanting to mail it in and down time and out of pocket shipping and insurance expense for warranty swap. Down time and out of pocket shipping and insurance on a $299 gun adds up every time it gets mailed back for warranty and of course the wait time. I am not sure they got the parts to repair it either and hopefully it's not a disposable gun like the Liberty and are worth fixing in the dealers eyes.
It's Hammer Time...
I would call or PM Thammer Troy Hammer for the better replacement part. You may need a weaker spring too.
I would add a larger plenum so the reg can be set at lower pressure thus possibly extending its overall useable life.
Start from 53:00.
https://youtu.be/yHhMJxPzwq4
If I had the current Avenger I would back the regulator down to it's minimum and shoot lowest velocity possible within reason to extend its trouble free life but that's just me knowing what may happen cranking it up which in turn may be drastically shortening it's life by a lot hammering and squashing the valve poppet. I would also only fill it to 3000psi max. Just to be proactive and not wanting to mail it in and down time and out of pocket shipping and insurance expense for warranty swap. Down time and out of pocket shipping and insurance on a $299 gun adds up every time it gets mailed back for warranty and of course the wait time. I am not sure they got the parts to repair it either and hopefully it's not a disposable gun like the Liberty and are worth fixing in the dealers eyes.
It's Hammer Time...
I would call or PM Thammer Troy Hammer for the better replacement part. You may need a weaker spring too.
I would add a larger plenum so the reg can be set at lower pressure thus possibly extending its overall useable life.
Start from 53:00.
https://youtu.be/yHhMJxPzwq4
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The DAR (GEN2) has an improved valve and poppet.
Check recent posts about the DAR as a possible nicer wood stocked slightly cheaper alternative and 75 yard groups look pretty good too. They did a recall for their original Gen1 with the weak valve poppet prone to failure to all their customers and replaced them with the new improved GEN2s. That's gotta tell you something.
I'm waiting for an improved GEN2 Avenger after their valve and poppet issue is resolved as well.
https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/my-dar-gen-2-25-came-in-today/
Check recent posts about the DAR as a possible nicer wood stocked slightly cheaper alternative and 75 yard groups look pretty good too. They did a recall for their original Gen1 with the weak valve poppet prone to failure to all their customers and replaced them with the new improved GEN2s. That's gotta tell you something.
I'm waiting for an improved GEN2 Avenger after their valve and poppet issue is resolved as well.
https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/my-dar-gen-2-25-came-in-today/
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The great part about the avenger is that it is so consistent, you can pump it to whatever you want as long as it is above the regulated pressure and it only affects your shot count. I hve a hill pump and I usually pump mine to 3500-4000 psi and I get plenty of consistent shots, and that is in .25. These are a great gun for twice the price and seem to work very well. I think I would do better with a .22 though. The .25 is a bit more than I need.
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I just pump my .177 to 3000 PSI, but its accuracy is fine going way way lower too. You don't have to go that high; if you don't, you'll have to pump more often is all. Either way, a rifle's top-end PSI doesn't mean much if you don't care whether you get there or not, and I don't.
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Not too bad to hand pump. My .25 cal reg is set at 2200 psi, HS at 2 1/2 turns in from backed out all of the way, fill to 3700 psi, shoot 32 JSB 25.39 Kings at 867 to 876 fps to end at 2300 psi. Takes about 100 pump strokes to refill. Works GREAT, I only have about 1500 shots thru it so far. GREAT gun for the money!
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I'm getting the .177 this week. What pressure do you recommend the regulator be set at? I'm hand pumping for now so looking to set the reg out of the box.
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You have to vent the gun to turn the regulator down. I vented mine (25 caliber) and turned the regulator to 1500. How low you go depends on what you want to do. You could turn it as low as 1200 psi or so and see where the velocity is. You do not need to vent to turn it up so you can go up if the velocity is too low.
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Thanks, actually read the manual for a first....
I'm going to try around 1400 psi, but once received shoot it a full reg pressure to see how it behaves. I can afford to take the reg pressure down a bit, since I'm mostly interested in pigeon removal around a horse barn my wife frequents. The lower pressure will be fine as the targets are like sitting ducks, err... pigeons espectially on the roof line and in the hay barn rafters. I will quiet it down with a DonnyFL adapter and a Tatsu, and the lower pressure will help me refrain from going throught the metal roof, just in case I miss one. Also using wadcutters to help on that potential issue. Looking forward to it.
I'm going to try around 1400 psi, but once received shoot it a full reg pressure to see how it behaves. I can afford to take the reg pressure down a bit, since I'm mostly interested in pigeon removal around a horse barn my wife frequents. The lower pressure will be fine as the targets are like sitting ducks, err... pigeons espectially on the roof line and in the hay barn rafters. I will quiet it down with a DonnyFL adapter and a Tatsu, and the lower pressure will help me refrain from going throught the metal roof, just in case I miss one. Also using wadcutters to help on that potential issue. Looking forward to it.
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I put the Donny FL adapter for a silencer on mine to align the barrel to the shroud. I don't currently plan to put on a silencer but will it gets too noisy when I turn the regulator up. There is a silencer test on a lower power tune where the unsilenced gun was only about 80db and the silencers only reduced it a dp or two. I am not sure an Avenger at lower power settings needs a silencer. The shrouded barrel may work just fine.
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