I have a number of youth sized firearms for my kids including .410 and 20ga shotguns. My kids are all to young to get started with the firearms. I have had them shooting airguns alot lately and they enjoy it very much. I have been thinking about getting them an air shotgun? The Gamo is low priced and sure the quality is typical gamo which I am ok with just for the sake of a training tool. I have read that it isn't very effective at more than 10 yards? PA offers the stock Viper and they offer a version they put a gas ram in. Does anyone have experience with either version? I have actually considered getting the AV wingshot because I am sure it is of good quality and it is said to be plenty powerful enough for the kids to actually take game with. Any and all opinions and experiences welcomed!!