"Ginuwine1969"Thank everyone so far with there thoughts, as expected some of you have exaggerated expectation on the minimum STANDARD a quality airgun should shoot out the box. Not everyone here are expert shooters whom dedicate hours of practice to there hobby daily. Oh and just because your gun can shoot less than an MOA at a certain distance doesn't mean that is what the vast majority should expect when picking up an airgun for the first time. So when one says that there gun is experiencing Accuracy issues because they can't group better than 1 inch at 75 yards so it is faulty is unrealistic because it COULD just be the shooter. Now if your gun is grouping at 4 inches at 75 yards then it is more probable that it is the gun. At 25 yards: 22 mm equals 3MOA, 12mm equals 2 MOA, 6.3mm equal 1MOA, it would be pretty hard to shoot LESS than an MOA with a 25 Cal gun at 25 yards. So when I was thinking about expectations i wasn't thinking of olympic shooters here, i was just thinking of the average Joe blow whom is doing this for fun, some pesting, and some hunting. It was also on the average, if i shoot a group of ten shots at 1 MOA, then 6 more group at 3 MOA then with that gun i'm a 3 MOA shooter.
As stated a lot of things go into accuracy, and on any given day we may be better or worse than our best. So expectation of new guns or guns in general should be made with by taking the shooter out of the equation as much as possible, bi pods, bench, pillow whatever, environment will alway play a part some, pellet imperfections, weight differences, barrel leading, air pressure fluctuations, etc all play a part. But we should have a minimum base line for the products that we buy, So i say again, my personal belief is that some of us expect too much as a base line. Most people here whom have been doing this for a while will obviously shoot better than the minimum with most guns at certain distances to be expected, but getting to know a new gun maybe adjust your expectations a little.
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I can see where your coming from on the expect less and not be disappointed but I believe this is not the awnser. 1 moa or less out to 50 in good conditions should be what a quality gun will shoot. If it doesn't it may have issues, not tuned right, wrong pellet etc etc. Most guns can shoot out of the box. The shooter can't though.
3moa is just obsene. I can do better than that with a Crosman 2240 and shoulder stock. That's like saying I can't find any 100lb girls so lets open that up to 300 lbs. Yeah, you will find some but are you happy?
Most problems are the shooter. It does not take long to learn a gun. You do not need to be Olympic quality to shoot well. Watch some videos and learn proper technique. There are mainly 3 reasons to buy a pellet gun. Target, hunting, plinking. If target shooting you need to practice to get good. No other way around it. If hunting you should be even better as you cant pick your conditions. If you bought a $2000 gun for plinking then accuracy doesn't matter.
It seems like your trying to get justification for a poor shooting gun. Do not settle. Figure out if its the gun or the shooter. I always see people bitching that fx says 1/2 inch...They have the action bolted in a test fixture and test the barrel. I am tempted to bolt my gun down somehow to see how much better it gets.
My gun is shooting really well but I still have not stopped trying to better what it does. There is almost always more accuracy somewhere to find.
Now some people do get lemons and it happens in any industry. If so have someone else try the gun, bolt it down, etc etc. If the majority of guns are shooting at a certain level of accuracy people need to practice to get to that level. There is no point lowering your expectations. Precision shooting is about always learning. You never stop or settle.
