What do you think an airgun accuracy be? I've seen a lot of people including myself complain that our gun is not shooting up to par. But what is par? People often reference centimeters or inches when talking about group size because its an exact measurement. I think when it comes to expectation of an airgun though we should start thinking of them as MOA shooters. "Ginuwine, what do you mean", you say? And i will get to that in a second. So the question is, What is a good starting point for group size? A MOA reference will cover all ranges (whether you shoot in your back yard 10-30 meters or yards). I believe that anything short of 75 yards a quality airgun should yield 2 MOA group or less out the box, and 3 MOA at 100 yards / meters because of environmental effects on the pellets, given you have the best pellet barrel combination. I think some of us have too high expectations. Like if my gun doesn't shoot 1 MOA at 100 yards there is something wrong with it. And at the end of the day that is just not true. poop, most of the best shooters here can't get 1 MOA 50% of the time they shoots and some dedicated a lot more time practicing than most people i know. Most powered burner shooters can't do it either. all my guns at this time shoot 2 MOA or better at 75 yards or less. So my new minium expectation right now is 2 MOA @ anything 75 and less and 3 MOA for 100 yards (high powered PCP). If you get better GREAT, but lets just get a little more realistic when judging group size. 50 yards = 1 inches, 75 yards = 1.5 inches and 100 yard is 3 inches. That's my starting point for group size, and my 2 cent. I started off saying accuracy but then some of you would instance point out that there is a difference, "hitting a specific point in space is accuracy" and aiming at the bull eyes and measuring groups are something else. What do you think? SpinJ has had a lot to add on this topic in the past and is a great shooter. Post is inspired by all the recent post about the Fx Impact issues although other guns accuracy issues come up as well, and i'm sure most of them are QC issues and meant to help other members get them resolved, but I wanted to just address expectation that we as airgun shooters may have.