Air Arms Air Arms Owners

[cavedweller]

I have had 4 of this basic Air Arms model:
s500 xs, s510 xs, and currently waiting on a HFT 500, sporter stocks, walnut stock, HFT laminated stocks, GRS stock and the AERON chassis. To date the carbine in the GRS stock is a favorite.
I converted all to foster fittings but never used a Stickman to fill, rather an airline and long QD and no clearance issues.
I prefer the Weihrauch moderator.
It seems to prefer HN 10.65 and FX 10.3 over the JSB 10.34.

 

[cavedweller]

Why, specifically would you not consider a .177? Just curious of your thought process.

Old thread but you can’t beat a .177 for backyards- I suggest you add a Rowan Engineering 8 shot manual rotary mag. And you can then load from the right side

 

[cavedweller]

This thread needs more pictures, there has to be some more great looking Air Arms rifles out there!

Both full length versions
But
To date since I’m vertically challenged I prefer the carbine length for off hand shooting esp HFT

 

[cavedweller]

And funky they are!
Did you use parts from Best Fittings?
Link please!

Yes I did!

 

[Struckat]

More photos?

Here is a shot from a whistlepig safari this spring.

 

[cavedweller]

More photos?

Here is a shot from a whistlepig safari this spring.

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If you ever want to do a reseal this Sub12 youtube video is spot on:

this youtube video will help you work on your AA 500 trigger safety mechanism.

 

[cavedweller]

More photos?

Here is a shot from a whistlepig safari this spring.

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@Struckat where did the nickname whistle pig come from?

 

[orangeokie]

It's been a while, but I recall it being simple enough. First, take a wrench and slowly unscrew the old adapter. Mine required very little force to turn, so take it easy. Keep going until you hear air coming out, then stop. Wait until the cylinder is empty, then swap out the old adapter for the new one. Remember to grease up any o-rings that might need it, and don't over torque the new adapter when installing it.

Thanks.

 

[Struckat]

@Struckat where did the nickname whistle pig come from?

I stole the term from others. I call them woodchucks.
I personally have not heard them whistle, but it is an alert in chuck talk saying there is some dope around with a BB gun.

 

[klentz]

This thread brings back fond memories since my introduction many years ago to PCP was an air arms s410 rifle. The power adjuster and after the trigger was adjusted was a dream air gun. This was long before air arms started regulating their PCPs.

I bought it with a walnut thumb hole stock and it fit like a glove. After adding an LDC that was made by rib Rab (you will have to have been around for a long time to remember him) it was so quiet even on maximum power which wasn't the sweet spot One hash mark below max was where this gun really shine in 22 caliber with 18.1 grain jsb's.

I ordered another s410 from Boris when he owned top gun air guns and it was a carbine length that he installed a classic air tube on. Great combination.

Yes the rifle was barrel heavy but that is as it should be. The thumb hole stocks were phenomenal from air arms but I think minelli manufactured them for air arms.

Since it was unregulated they got a mediocre shot count compared to what the offerings are today but the fit, finish, triggers when adjusted correctly and unbelievably accurate barrels made up for it. Very underrated guns.

Yes the banjo style fill adapter take some getting used to but it can be changed out to a foster fill easily enough. We are now nitpicking.

I find it interesting that there is so few of these guns being sold used especially those with thumb hole stocks. I understand the reason for this

 

[orangeokie]

I find it interesting that there is so few of these guns being sold used especially those with thumb hole stocks. I understand the reason for this

I doubt very many owners of an Air Arms is willing to sell it. They are actually family heirlooms that you can pass down to your grand children.

 

[cavedweller]

I doubt very many owners of an Air Arms is willing to sell it. They are actually family heirlooms that you can pass down to your grand children.

I had huge joy factor shooting my AA500XS carbine today… really liked FX10.3!

 

[graycrait]

70 yr old here with a 2 piece stock S200 I got at least 3rd hand with unknown to me moderator. It is a laser and have had 1 shot killing head shots everything I have pointed it at. It is so darn quiet though. The guy I got it from still chuckles when I mention how quiet it is. It was supposedly tuned by some "expert". I have no idea what its power level is but it is way quieter than my Diana Stormrider .177 with Buck Rail moderator.

 

[Duckfish]

S410-SL XTRA FAC
No regulator
Geourgus furniture
Boringly accurate
Shoulders like it’s part of you
Adjustable power wheel
Single shot loader or magazine
Never been resealed
Holds air forever
Not for sale

 

[Airgun Al]

For many years, Air Arms springers have always been, some of the most popular and absolute finest in the industry.
Todays Air Arms PCP's are another story, in my opinion.

15 or 20 years ago, I purchased a brand new S410.
At the time, it was in stock, very reasonably priced, and a absolutely great rifle!
Back then, I considered Air Arms as a top tier manufacture, right up there with FX, and Daystate.

Today, their new PCP's need updateing, and are too pricey in my opinion.
Certainly not as adjustable as other pcp offerings, for less money.
It would be nice to incorporate some user friendly adjustability, such as hammer sping adjustment and regulator adjusments.
It would also be great to see a new model, with higher power too.
The brass banjo style fill port is in dire need of an update, and it seems like it would be so easy for A.A. to simply change to a modern quick disconnect.
The contrapion that stops the magazine is an absolute eye sore, in my opinion, and needs to be re-enginered.
Simple fix's, if A.A. re-enginered, and updated their designs ever so slightly.

37 different models?
I find it difficult to keep track of all the different models.
Sporter, Sporter R, Sporter XS, SuperLight, 510, 510S, 510 XS, 510 XTRA, 510 XTRA XS, 510 FAC, 510 regulated, 510 unregulated, etc....
I had no idea, that SOME S510's are REGULATED, and yet some are NOT REGULATED.
Its very confusing to me, and always has been.
37 different models is very confusing to me, (I just made that number up)!
It seems like Air Arms could simply stream-line the different model designations.

The major retailers in United States, only offer a few Air Arms models, yet not all 37 models (Imagine that!)
Usually no mention at all, of ALL of Air Arms offerings.
The models that are offered, are CONSTANTLY out of stock, but expected soon.
Yet inevitably, these arrival dates come and go, only to be delayed again, to a future date...
That leaves the option of "SPECIAL ORDERING", which means pre-paying and waiting, and waiting, and...

Last but not least, I was some what concerned about Air Arms Shot Show 2024 announcement. and their merger with a lesser known company.
I suppose the purpose was to incorporate new models (like they need more) at a lower price point.
But in my mind, this is like Chevrolet, teaming up with Fiat or Yugo.
The other major announcement for the 2024 Shot Show from Air Arms, was their cute new Air Arms "uniforms".
Dressing up representatives in matching uniforms with neck ties ?
Really?
I was expecting more from Air Arms.
I am concerned about Air Arms going forward.

In my opinion, Air Arms would increase their PCP sales DRASTICALLY with some very SIMPLE and modern updates.
Very MINOR changes in BOTH production, and marketing.
VERY EASY FIX's!
Change can be a good thing!

For many years, Air Arms springers have always been, some of the most popular and absolute finest in the industry.
Air Arms PCP's are no different.
Air Arms PCP's, should be #1 in the airgun industry too, right where they belong!

 

[shawnlyndy]

I have the S500 same rifle in single shot. .177 caliber, My most accurate pcp for sure. My grandson and I shoot it at the OKC gun club field target matches. Exceptional rifle.

 

[Midnight4]

here you go AA NJR Carbine and PP-1 Companion Pistol,

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here you go AA NJR Carbine and PP-1 Companion Pistol,

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I'm almost certain that I have seen both of those very nice articles in the past.
I had to have Joe Korick make me a high-power regulator, new firing valve, spare parts for his and also spares
for the factory brass reg. Just in case he shut his doors. My small design change allows me to adjust the striker pin
stick out and the spring pre-load without needing to divorce the action and stock. I'm still getting too much hammer
bounce so, I'm looking into a FFH design.
Shawn

 

[Midnight4]

How in heavens name do I reduce image size?

 

[Midnight4]

Air gun AI, I find that I must agree with you. The AA line of PCP's are in desperate need of tweaking.
A lot in fact. I feel like what they need is an infusion of new, creative talent for visual appeal and start to use
the decades of experience that all of the manufactures have amassed over all of these years.
I look at a Girandoni from the late 1700's and it inner working are conceptually the same as my NJR.
I pull all sorts of air guns apart and the firing valve is basically a tire's, Shrader valve in concept. My 1994
NJR and my FWB P70 from 2000 are similar enough that I can work on them without a manual.
That said, the German stuff is really well planned and executed. It's really compact and efficient.
As I recall, a Hi-power P70 has a heavier hammer and a plenum that is about 6mm longer.
Why do these guns cost so much? Once you have the design and you watch how quickly that CNC machines
produce parts, yes...you have to ask that question. At this point, they might consider using a Remmington 700
footprint for their guns. That would allow for use of a tremendous number of existing products to be use.
That is anything that a Rem 700 uses. Socks, aluminum, chassis. triggers. etc. Why reinvent the wheel?
A company called Vudoo has taken that approach with their .22LR and they are not alone. It provides for
a tremendous amount of personal customization. As for my taste, I hate the big, fat carbon fiber bottle that is
so often used. I find it offensive! Make one longer to give it better visual balance. Post #3

 

[drpietrzak]

Air gun AI, I find that I must agree with you. The AA line of PCP's are in desperate need of tweaking.
A lot in fact. I feel like what they need is an infusion of new, creative talent for visual appeal and start to use
the decades of experience that all of the manufactures have amassed over all of these years.
I look at a Girandoni from the late 1700's and it inner working are conceptually the same as my NJR.
I pull all sorts of air guns apart and the firing valve is basically a tire's, Shrader valve in concept. My 1994
NJR and my FWB P70 from 2000 are similar enough that I can work on them without a manual.
That said, the German stuff is really well planned and executed. It's really compact and efficient.
As I recall, a Hi-power P70 has a heavier hammer and a plenum that is about 6mm longer.
Why do these guns cost so much? Once you have the design and you watch how quickly that CNC machines
produce parts, yes...you have to ask that question. At this point, they might consider using a Remmington 700
footprint for their guns. That would allow for use of a tremendous number of existing products to be use.
That is anything that a Rem 700 uses. Socks, aluminum, chassis. triggers. etc. Why reinvent the wheel?
A company called Vudoo has taken that approach with their .22LR and they are not alone. It provides for
a tremendous amount of personal customization. As for my taste, I hate the big, fat carbon fiber bottle that is
so often used. I find it offensive! Make one longer to give it better visual balance. Post #3

I believe Voodoo is bankrupt now.